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Old 06-15-2017, 07:17 AM
 
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Typical Republican. The only values they recognize come with a dollar sign.

Typical of Democrats to see everything through increasing their voting bloc rather than focusing on what is good for the country as a whole.

 
Old 06-15-2017, 07:29 AM
 
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And if their people (who are American citizens) want to be a state? What does being a state have to do with losing their cultural identity? Why would that have to change? I don't see any specific reason.

It would be the same thing if any foreign country decided to become a U.S. state. They would lose their independence, etc.
 
Old 06-15-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Typical of Democrats to see everything through increasing their voting bloc rather than focusing on what is good for the country as a whole.
Typical of racist Republicans to see everything through decreasing potential opposition rather than focusing on the moral good as a whole.
 
Old 06-15-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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Typical of racist Republicans to see everything through decreasing potential opposition rather than focusing on the moral good as a whole.
I don't think MOST Americans would want 10 million more Russians here even tho MOST Russians are "white".
 
Old 06-15-2017, 03:12 PM
 
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Lmao is OP for real? What a bunch of nonsensical thinly veiled racist babbling
 
Old 06-15-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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It would be the same thing if any foreign country decided to become a U.S. state. They would lose their independence, etc.
But PR is not, and has not been for a very long time, an independent nation. They are a part of the USA, and their citizens are ALSO American citizens.
 
Old 06-15-2017, 03:33 PM
 
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But PR is not, and has not been for a very long time, an independent nation. They are a part of the USA, and their citizens are ALSO American citizens.

I was making an analogy. I guess it went right over your head. PR is still not a state and if they became one they'd lose their independence to "become" their own country.
 
Old 06-15-2017, 03:38 PM
 
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I was making an analogy. I guess it went right over your head. PR is still not a state and if they became one they'd lose their independence to "become" their own country.
It did not go over my head at all. I just don't think there is a direct analogy. PR is culturally-distinct, but so are other parts of the US (this was what your initial post was about).


I've said this entire thread (and to you in previous posts) - let their people decide: become a US state and get all of the citizenship rights that all other Americans have, or become an independent nation.
 
Old 06-15-2017, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I was making an analogy. I guess it went right over your head. PR is still not a state and if they became one they'd lose their independence to "become" their own country.
They are not independent and have not been independent for 100 years or more. The US spent decades thwarting attempts by the Puerto Ricans to establish an independent nation. Some of the worst behavior by the US in its history including a law making it illegal to espouse independence.

We mugged, oppressed them and now we own them. Time to give them a fair shake...Statehood. And maybe 40 or 50 billion in reparation for our sins.
 
Old 06-15-2017, 03:48 PM
 
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And maybe 40 or 50 billion in reparation for our sins.
What? Hell no!

We don't owe PR anything. They're already completely sustained by the United States. They have reaped the benefits of citizenship for 100 years.
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