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Old 06-12-2017, 07:29 AM
 
Location: PGI
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We see political memes all the time. But just because they exist does not make them true. Take this one for example, it is posted on numerous websites:

I checked several reliable fact checkers and they all say it's false. Nowhere in Art Of The Deal can that quote be found. But there it is in quotes, and anyone anti-Trump who doesn't take the time to fact check might believe it and "spread the word."

The Internet is full of this kind of thing and if you don't do your due diligence and fact check, you may be spreading falsehoods. At the minimum, it could mean you lose credibility. On the other end it could mean someone has been unjustly wronged.

But I want to make it clear that spreading these kinds of "facts" should not be confused with stating opinions. We all do that and I believe most people can tell the difference.

Here's another meme unsupported by fact:

In this instance they did not put quotation marks around the "statement" but it is implied. What is also implied it this statement was allegedly made regarding the email investigation because Comey did not make public he investigated her for anything else. Fact checking shows Comey never said Hillary Clinton was guilty of anything other then being extremely careless. And he never said he feared for his life if he "told the truth" as implied here. Comey is still alive today.

While memes may promote our beliefs or agendas, that doesn't make them true. IMHO

Discuss?
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:51 AM
 
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Anyone who believes social media memes is a tool.
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: PGI
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Well, there's no doubt memes are used as tools and, based on the sheer number of them, they must be effective. Either that or there are a lot of people spending a lot of time having fun with them.

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Old 06-12-2017, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The first meme uses quotation marks clearly indicating Trump said it (even though he didn't).

The second meme doesn't use quotes and is ambiguous if it's a direct quote.

If I stumbled upon both of these memes I would have assumed the first one was legit and the second one was not a legit Comey quote.
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:43 PM
 
Location: PSL
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LOL normie memes!

They're all as low energy as Jeb.
Contemplates posting what were used in The Great Meme War...
Probably receive instant ban and lots of lulz and libs/dems/progs calling for a ban on Assault Memes...
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Regarding Clinton's innocence/guilt, all you have to do is actually read/hear Comey's statement.

Here, I pulled a few quotes. The meme isn't wrong. She's guilty as hell.

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Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system, in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way, or a second statute making it a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information from appropriate systems or storage facilities.

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From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.

The FBI also discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014.

[Those emails were subpoead, so she committed a crime by not providing them.]

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With respect to the thousands of e-mails we found that were not among those produced to State, agencies have concluded that three of those were classified at the time they were sent or received, one at the Secret level and two at the Confidential level.

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For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.

Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.

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Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.
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Old 10-16-2017, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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The first meme uses quotation marks clearly indicating Trump said it (even though he didn't).

The second meme doesn't use quotes and is ambiguous if it's a direct quote.

If I stumbled upon both of these memes I would have assumed the first one was legit and the second one was not a legit Comey quote.

It doesn't HAVE to be a Comey quote. It's a meme. It's supposed to be funny.
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