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Well I hope you're not counting on Gorsuch to bring this to fruition for you. From what I hear he's a Constitutionalist. You can't be a "Constitutionalist" if you go against the Constitution.
Nothing in the travel ban violated the constitution.
Really? And if they refuse to even hear the case? Would Trump give up on this stupid ban then? Or go on Twitter and call the SCOTUS 'so-called judges'?
The guy says he wants "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on"...
He has over 90 days and counting. You think he has enough time to figure that out yet?
So you believe that the travel ban was to prevent irreparable harm as claimed in the petition, it states that the 90 ban was imposed after consultation with Homeland Security when they were not even involved. Homeland is supposed to determine that there is an existing and eminent threat based on facts, where are they? I don't see that he consulted with anyone except maybe Bannon.
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Petitioners (defendants-appellants below) are Donald
J. Trump, in his official capacity as President of the
United States; the United States Department of Homeland Security; the Department of State; the Office of the Director of National Intelligence; John F. Kelly, in his
official capacity as Secretary of Homeland Security;
Rex W. Tillerson, in his official capacity as Secretary of
State; and Daniel R. Coats, in his official capacity as
Director of National Intelligence.
Seems there is a bunch of conflicting issues up for subjective scrutiny....that's a poorly written ban...and the President's words matter during the campaign and afterwards.
But it is a joke now.....imminent threat for 90 days is gone, long gone.
And if there is a terrorist attack in USA the only way you can look to this ban is if the person came from one of those countries on the list.....not come from there 20 years ago...but in the last six months.
The ban is a game now and it looks petty and trivial for The White House to be bickering over it still.
Seems there is a bunch of conflicting issues up for subjective scrutiny....that's a poorly written ban...and the President's words matter during the campaign and afterwards.
But it is a joke now.....imminent threat for 90 days is gone, long gone.
And if there is a terrorist attack in USA the only way you can look to this ban is if the person came from one of those countries on the list.....not come from there 20 years ago...but in the last six months.
The ban is a game now and it looks petty and trivial for The White House to be bickering over it still.
I agree, it's all about the 'win' now. Any win..heck..any perception that can be twisted into looking like a win--is what Trump wants. Substance? Who cares, right?
I wonder if this is the most ineffectual govt. we've ever had, given that the Republican's control everything?
So you believe that the travel ban was to prevent irreparable harm as claimed in the petition, it states that the 90 ban was imposed after consultation with Homeland Security when they were not even involved. Homeland is supposed to determine that there is an existing and eminent threat based on facts, where are they? I don't see that he consulted with anyone except maybe Bannon.
The Federal Courts determine what is 'relevant'---and what Trump said during the campaign is very relevant..in fact, it is the crux of the issue.
The 'Establishment' clause, is indeed, part of our Constitution.
I can talk for months about how I'm going to buy a Mustang GT.
But when I get to the dealer and find out that I can only afford a V6 Mustang....
My previous statements about wanting a GT don't make it a GT.
Even if plaster it with GT emblems to try to fool people into thinking its a GT...
When you open the hood and look at what's inside...
It's still a V6.
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