Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
People have the right to refuse service and it can be based on religious principles.
But tort law is tort law and there is no exemption from that.
That idiot was trying to usurp a legal ruling based on law not practised in the US.
Take your atheist outrage somewhere else.
If you can't refuse service bc you don't feel like doing it, then you shouldn't be able to refuse service bc of religion. If you can, then you're creating an exemption from the law based on religion.
If you don't want Muslims to slice out their own exemptions from law, then maybe your shouldn't have fought so hard for Christians to get that freedom...
And in case you're going to try to claim this is somehow a left-wing lie, here's the Republican governor's own statement defending signing the legislation that his Republican legislature voted for: https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilBryan...963008/photo/1
Do you know what a small percentage of Christians you're talking about?
I'm attaching a chart from a study done last year. Even among the groups where the majority of people are not in favor of same sex marriage, there's likely only a small subset of people who would refuse to do business with those in same sex marriages. And it's a TINY percentage of people who would even be aware of such a situation in the first place.
And other than hurting people's feelings, I don't see how refusing to do business with people in same sex marriages hurts anyone.
You're comparing apples with oranges.
Last edited by Ibginnie; 06-14-2017 at 10:05 AM..
Reason: copyright violation
If you can't refuse service bc you don't feel like doing it, then you shouldn't be able to refuse service bc of religion. If you can, then you're creating an exemption from the law based on religion.
If you don't want Muslims to slice out their own exemptions from law, then maybe your shouldn't have fought so hard for Christians to get that freedom...
I operate a small business and I can and have refused to do business with some people. Based on religion and do on.
But the reason for this idiot trying what he did and was overruled completely sailed over your head.
People are protesting Sharia, but there isn't really any need to do that. There is no law, Sharia or otherwise, that can supersede the Constitution and the laws of the United States. Period.
The Muslims can have their own little kangaroo courts and think they can live by that, but they carry no legal weight and are unenforceable.
In courts all around the country someone is arguing for something that isn't backed by law so this really isn't a noteworthy circumstance.
That out of the way, groups can handle things internally as long as they are not criminal actions in themselves. The Amish do it also.
If two neighbors have a dispute they can use Sharia law to settle it as long as the actions themselves are not illegal and both sides agree to it.
If you can't refuse service bc you don't feel like doing it, then you shouldn't be able to refuse service bc of religion. If you can, then you're creating an exemption from the law based on religion.
If you don't want Muslims to slice out their own exemptions from law, then maybe your shouldn't have fought so hard for Christians to get that freedom...
What "exemptions" would those be? I am aware of no special exemptions to the law of the land that Christians have. Matter of fact, I see quite the opposite. Even the slightest thing that even can be loosely seen as such an exemption sparks a media circus of huge proportions. And all it takes is a single person raising a fuss over a Christmas display in a mall, a picture of Jesus or a representation of the Commandments hanging in some corner in a courthouse or school to make it seem as if there's some massive Christian plot to sneak theism into the law.
Yet these same outraged people will defend Islamists over honor killings, FGM, application of Sharia, etc, as being a "cultural" issue we need to be tolerant and understanding of. Being a "culturally diverse" nation and all, that actually has no true culture of its own.
What "exemptions" would those be? I am aware of no special exemptions to the law of the land that Christians have. Matter of fact, I see quite the opposite. Even the sIm an test thing that even can be loosely seen as such an exemption sparks a media circus of huge proportions. And all it takes is a single person raising a fuss over a Christmas display in a mall, a picture of Jesus or a representation of the Commandments hanging in some corner in a courthouse or school to make it seem as if there's some massive Christian plot to sneak theism into the law.
Yet these same outraged people will defend Islamists over honor killings, FGM, application of Sharia, etc, as being a "cultural" issue we need to be tolerant and understanding of. Being a "culturally diverse" nation and all, that actually has no true culture of its own.
We need to be more accepting of those with a different background than our own. Just watched the House open up with a prayer and pledge allegiance. For cultural and religous fairness we need to use an Iman and switch the pledge to Allah every other time.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
What "exemptions" would those be? I am aware of no special exemptions to the law of the land that Christians have. Matter of fact, I see quite the opposite. Even the slightest thing that even can be loosely seen as such an exemption sparks a media circus of huge proportions. And all it takes is a single person raising a fuss over a Christmas display in a mall, a picture of Jesus or a representation of the Commandments hanging in some corner in a courthouse or school to make it seem as if there's some massive Christian plot to sneak theism into the law. 
