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Old 06-13-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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See post above.
OK, I see the point.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Problem could be solved very easily.

All Cuba has to do is build a 45 story hotel in downtown Havana and ask the Trump Organization if they can name it "Trump Tower, Havana" if they paid 20 million a year for use of the name and gave Trump 15% of all gross receipts.

Trump would magically open up Cuba to all America like a can of beans then.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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WHY? Why is it good we do business with scumbags all over the world and decide to close our doors to a place so near?

You say the Castro brothers are so brutal, can you make the case the leadership in Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, and so many other places America does business are any less brutal with their long histories of human rights violations?

What makes inconsistency a desirable tenet of foreign policy?
Just proves the fact that American foreign policy has no moral compass.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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I always forget to add this to the list of things Obama did that I liked.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Why won't he deal with Cuba because of human rights violations, but he's OK with Saudi Arabia which treats women like dirt??

Cuba is poor, very poor. trump curtsied to the Saudi prince's billions. With this WH, it's always, FOLLOW THE MONEY.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Just proves the fact that American foreign policy has no moral compass.

Hell, it's so inconsistent I don't think it has a compass, moral or otherwise.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:46 AM
 
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Why won't he deal with Cuba because of human rights violations, but he's OK with Saudi Arabia which treats women like dirt??

Cuba is poor, very poor. trump curtsied to the Saudi prince's billions. With this WH, it's always, FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Because it's GOP policy to pander to Cuban-Americans living in Florida, an important swing state that is always close.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Because it's GOP policy to pander to Cuban-Americans living in Florida, an important swing state that is always close.
That was true back in the day. The current generations of Cuban-Americans are not adamantly opposed to opening trade and communication with Cuba. It is 2 generations removed from Castro taking power. I have a home in Tampa area and other than the really really old-timers, most Cuban-Americans think it's better to start a dialogue with Cuba. The long time embargo and sanctions proved nothing.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...n-cuba/474612/

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But when it comes to Cuban Americans who left in later years, that opposition flips, as 65 percent of those who came between 1981 and 1994 and 80 percent who came between 1995 and 2014 favor diplomatic relations with Cuba. The difference, according to Sebastián Arcos, the associate director of FIU’s Cuban Research Institute, is rooted in why those Cuban Americans fled their home country in the first place. Historically, the divide among Cuban Americans has been between those who came as political exiles in the aftermath of Castro’s revolution and those who came in recent decades for economic reasons, many of whom do not share “the political or civic education” of exiles, says Arcos
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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Default Trump Expected To Restrict Trade, Travel With Cuba

Good! Castro lied to us. This is what U.S. dollars are funding in 2016:

Cuba arbitrary arrests soared in 2016, dissidents say
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Old 06-13-2017, 11:03 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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I support this move, I am NOT opposed to restoring diplomatic and economic relations with Cuba ... however I believe Raul Castro and the Cuban Communist Party should be required to step down as part of the deal, along with turning over all terrorists and fugitives (Assata Shakur, William Morales, etc) that they are sheltering. Cuba would basically have to become a multi-party democracy.

Obama's ill conceived "deal" basically had us propping up an anti-American regime using American money. Why? What's the point?
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