U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-13-2017, 11:50 AM
 
16,596 posts, read 7,733,047 times
Reputation: 10474

Advertisements

https://www.outdoorhub.com/opinions/...sion-of-a-gun/




"Following some lengthy, in-depth investigative work, USA Today has discovered more than 60 North Carolina men serving federal sentences for violating gun laws it turns out they didn’t actually violate"
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-13-2017, 11:58 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
78,881 posts, read 43,608,712 times
Reputation: 18494
Quote:
Originally Posted by Floorist View Post
https://www.outdoorhub.com/opinions/...sion-of-a-gun/




"Following some lengthy, in-depth investigative work, USA Today has discovered more than 60 North Carolina men serving federal sentences for violating gun laws it turns out they didn’t actually violate"

I have to understand, how a felon, is not a person?

"the right of the People"


The only way possible, you can lose your rights is to be dead, or incarcerated behind bars. Period.
Other than that, it is not illegal, until you get caught.

The 2017 version of the 2nd Amendment.
Militias are illegal as the Police State has replaced the Free State, the privilege of citizens 21 years and older, who are non-felons and mentally sane, may be allowed to keep the small arms the federal or state government allows and that may be altered at any moment the governments feel threatened by the people.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2017, 12:25 PM
 
186 posts, read 248,624 times
Reputation: 197
So they did have criminal records and they did have guns, they just weren't "that bad'.

"The problem is that none of them had criminal records serious enough to make them felons under federal law."
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2017, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Ohio
23,424 posts, read 17,383,531 times
Reputation: 20234
Quote:
Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
I have to understand, how a felon, is not a person?
A felon is a criminal, not a person. It real simple: Don't cause harm to the People and you won't be convicted of a felony.

If felons want to own guns, they can move to Somalia.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2017, 04:02 PM
 
14,568 posts, read 11,863,831 times
Reputation: 18633
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
A felon is a criminal, not a person. It real simple: Don't cause harm to the People and you won't be convicted of a felony.

If felons want to own guns, they can move to Somalia.
A felon is someone who committed a crime that has a possible jail sentence of over 1 year. Doesn't mean they went to jail.

Violation of the endangered species act is a felony.

Wesley Snipes is a felon for not paying taxes.

Rolling back the odometer on a vehicle is a felony.

Not all felonies are violent or cause harm to people.


I don't necessarily say that people who commit those crimes shouldn't lose their right to own a firearm.. Especially while they're under any parole/probation.. But lifetime loss with no possibility to have them restored? Yeah.. Not so much.

Especially when someone can beat the crap out of their wife, get charged with a misdemeanor and keep them.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2017, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
7,138 posts, read 5,620,359 times
Reputation: 4815
Quote:
Originally Posted by Labonte18 View Post
A felon is someone who committed a crime that has a possible jail sentence of over 1 year. Doesn't mean they went to jail.

Violation of the endangered species act is a felony.

Wesley Snipes is a felon for not paying taxes.

Rolling back the odometer on a vehicle is a felony.

Not all felonies are violent or cause harm to people.


I don't necessarily say that people who commit those crimes shouldn't lose their right to own a firearm.. Especially while they're under any parole/probation.. But lifetime loss with no possibility to have them restored? Yeah.. Not so much.

Especially when someone can beat the crap out of their wife, get charged with a misdemeanor and keep them.
Actually that last part is incorrect. The same Federal law makes persons convicted of any state domestic violence charge prohibited from owning weapons, regardless of misdemeanor/felony status.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2017, 04:10 PM
 
14,568 posts, read 11,863,831 times
Reputation: 18633
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattCW View Post
Actually that last part is incorrect. The same Federal law makes persons convicted of any state domestic violence charge prohibited from owning weapons, regardless of misdemeanor/felony status.
I'm aware of that, but it only applies if they are charged with a domestic violence offense.

Many will be allowed to plead out to simple assault, which bypasses that law.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2017, 04:35 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
17,608 posts, read 14,340,931 times
Reputation: 16345
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattCW View Post
Actually that last part is incorrect. The same Federal law makes persons convicted of any state domestic violence charge prohibited from owning weapons, regardless of misdemeanor/felony status.

This is true, and when it was first signed into law created an amusing circus in the LE arena. In Washoe county here in N Nv, that law effectively reduced the Washoe county Sheriffs dept manpower by better than a third. LOL, turns out a lot of deputies had some problems at home, and under this law could not even own a gun, let alone carry one for a living and wear a badge. Government hypocrisy went into fullswing, and "special exemptions" for LE personnel were ratified.


Yea, makes perfect sense right? Cops can beat their wives, or otherwise be considered guilty of domestic violence, but this is do as I say, not do as I do.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2017, 05:59 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
78,881 posts, read 43,608,712 times
Reputation: 18494
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
A felon is a criminal, not a person. It real simple: Don't cause harm to the People and you won't be convicted of a felony.

If felons want to own guns, they can move to Somalia.

No... Just a subcategory, but still of the person species.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-13-2017, 06:03 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
78,881 posts, read 43,608,712 times
Reputation: 18494
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattCW View Post
Actually that last part is incorrect. The same Federal law makes persons convicted of any state domestic violence charge prohibited from owning weapons, regardless of misdemeanor/felony status.

If I can make my own pistol, rifle, shotgun, or cannon, of any caliber in a day in my garage, what are you going to do, ban someone from raw metals?
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2022, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top