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Old 06-14-2017, 09:51 AM
 
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Different take on it here.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! DEMOCRATS ARE SUING TRUMP FOR OWNING HOTELS!! HAHAHA. THEY CAN'T STOP LOSING!!!

Very true too.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Houston
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It's not about winning or losing. It's the end game that counts.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:18 AM
 
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exactly right. the emoluments clause is about GIFTS AND TITLES given by foreign governments, not legitimate business operations.
That too. But also includes payments, which means that any foreign state guests staying at Trump hotel or playing on a Trump golf course, paying management fees to one his property management companies... puts Trump in violation of the Constitution.

Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution.

“...And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”


Emolument means payment, not profit from those payments.

Emolument: Payment made for work that has been done. Refers to payments made to millers for grinding corn as "emolere" means "grind out."

There is no question that accepting any payment from a foreign state is in violation of the Constitution.

Now whether Trump will be held to the oath he took to protect and defend the Constitution remains to be seen.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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It's not about winning or losing. It's the end game that counts.
Alinksy? Is that you?
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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That too. But also includes payments, which means that any foreign state guests staying at Trump hotel or playing on a Trump golf course, paying management fees to one his property management companies... puts Trump in violation of the Constitution.

Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution.

“...And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”


Emolument means payment, not profit from those payments.

Emolument: Payment made for work that has been done. Refers to payments made to millers for grinding corn as "emolere" means "grind out."

There is no question that accepting any payment from a foreign state is in violation of the Constitution.

Now whether Trump will be held to the oath he took to protect and defend the Constitution remains to be seen.
Now I've seen it all. What a crock of ****. Again, then Obama and every other Congress critter who ever sold a book to a foreign dignitary is in violation. There is absolutely nothing here.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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USA TODAY
The unprecedented legal action will accuse Trump of violating the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits federal officials from accepting gifts or titles from foreign governments without congressional approval, according to lawmakers leading the effort.



The lawsuit will have the greatest number of congressional plaintiffs of any lawsuit against the president in the nation’s history, according to Michigan Rep. John Conyers, the House Judiciary Committee’s top-ranking Democrat.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...cts/102830002/


Of course, it's doubtful if America ever had a more CORRUPT POS in the White House!
I thought it was just two
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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Now I've seen it all. What a crock of ****. Again, then Obama and every other Congress critter who ever sold a book to a foreign dignitary is in violation. There is absolutely nothing here.
Believing things that just aren't so isn't going to help matters.

Obama moved all his investments into indexed stocks. As the nation's economy improved, so did his net worth. Payments for books come via his publisher, Penguin Random House rather than from foreign nations trying to influence the POTUS. But if you want to sue someone over the emoluments clause, go for it.

That's what 200 lawmakers are apparently doing.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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That's a total waste of time. Trump won't settle and it will go on for years with no end.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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That's a total waste of time. Trump won't settle and it will go on for years with no end.
The POTUS should not be required to abide by the Constitution because it will take so long to get him to do it?

What an unusual take on the matter.

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Old 06-14-2017, 11:08 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Right! Why? It's more baseless innuendo. Even Chuck Schumer admits China has stopped manipulating their currency.

When did they stop and when did Schumer say it?
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