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Old 06-14-2017, 07:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Floorist View Post
Oh great, another stupid anti-gun thread from someone who knows nothing about guns.

 
Old 06-14-2017, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Originally Posted by metalmancpa View Post
I love this song by Exodus -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HNZrHZ0-xI

Intense lyrics into the mind of a hateful person with a gun.

Everything around me ignites my rage
I'm burning with animosity
Everywhere I look another war to wage
Filled with purpose of singularity
Got my hollow points, got my magazines
Wrote my manifesto of decay
Commencement of the killing at the university
Antipathy, the lesson of the day
They never should have pushed me away

Student bodies lying dead in the halls
A blood splattered treatise of hate
Class dismissed is my hypothesis
Gun fire ends the debate
All I ever wanted was a little affection
But no one ever gave it to me
My hate primer's the result of my rejection
You'll die for it, and I'll die for thee

The halls of learning now a shooting range
My final exam with a gun
Killing everyone who ever thought me strange
My bloody dissertation has begun
Pomp and circumstance replaced by bullet wounds
The smell of gunpowder on the air
Murder is the nightmare of this afternoon
My malevolence, your cross to bear
All because of my despair

Student bodies lying dead in the halls
A blood splattered treatise of hate
Class dismissed is my hypothesis
Gun fire ends the debate
All I ever wanted was a little affection
But no one ever gave it to me
My hate primer's the result of my rejection
You'll die for it, and I'll die for thee

Hate lives in me
Hate lives in me
Hate I need it and it needs me
Hate I feed it and it fed me
Hate I breed it and it bred me
Hate
Hate I read it and it read me
Hate I lead it and it led me
Hate I bleed it and it bled me
I breathe it in, and it breathes through me

While SWAT teams swarm all around the quad
The symposium of slaughter carries on
Smith and Wesson is my only God
And the line in the sand has been drawn
Valedictorian of violence
Graduation day, one bullet remains
Charles Whitman set the precedent
I pull the trigger and blow out my brains
They never knew I was insane

Student bodies lying dead in the halls
A blood splattered treatise of hate
Class dismissed is my hypothesis
Gun fire ends the debate
All I ever wanted was a little affection
But no one ever gave it to me
My hate primer's the result of my rejection
You'll die for it, and I'll die for thee

I instruct you
And I destruct you
I deconstruct you
Until my hate has ****ed you



And that song just proves the point, that the gun by its self does nothing. There is a person most often filled with rage pulling the trigger. But a person none the less pulling the trigger.
 
Old 06-14-2017, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Originally Posted by metalmancpa View Post
The world has changed incredibly fast, fast enough that maybe the original right to bear arms may need adjusting because life has passed it by.
Amend the Constitution
Constitutional Convention
US Supreme Court

If that is the desire then such is the procedure.

HOWEVER, despite that the world has changed pretty fast, the US seems to be pretty good, being around under the Constitution for something like 230 years, give or take a few.
 
Old 06-14-2017, 07:26 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by metalmancpa View Post
I love this song by Exodus -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HNZrHZ0-xI

Intense lyrics into the mind of a hateful person with a gun.

Everything around me ignites my rage
I'm burning with animosity
Everywhere I look another war to wage
Filled with purpose of singularity
Got my hollow points, got my magazines
Wrote my manifesto of decay
Commencement of the killing at the university
Antipathy, the lesson of the day
They never should have pushed me away

Student bodies lying dead in the halls
A blood splattered treatise of hate
Class dismissed is my hypothesis
Gun fire ends the debate
All I ever wanted was a little affection
But no one ever gave it to me
My hate primer's the result of my rejection
You'll die for it, and I'll die for thee

The halls of learning now a shooting range
My final exam with a gun
Killing everyone who ever thought me strange
My bloody dissertation has begun
Pomp and circumstance replaced by bullet wounds
The smell of gunpowder on the air
Murder is the nightmare of this afternoon
My malevolence, your cross to bear
All because of my despair

Student bodies lying dead in the halls
A blood splattered treatise of hate
Class dismissed is my hypothesis
Gun fire ends the debate
All I ever wanted was a little affection
But no one ever gave it to me
My hate primer's the result of my rejection
You'll die for it, and I'll die for thee

Hate lives in me
Hate lives in me
Hate I need it and it needs me
Hate I feed it and it fed me
Hate I breed it and it bred me
Hate
Hate I read it and it read me
Hate I lead it and it led me
Hate I bleed it and it bled me
I breathe it in, and it breathes through me

While SWAT teams swarm all around the quad
The symposium of slaughter carries on
Smith and Wesson is my only God
And the line in the sand has been drawn
Valedictorian of violence
Graduation day, one bullet remains
Charles Whitman set the precedent
I pull the trigger and blow out my brains
They never knew I was insane

Student bodies lying dead in the halls
A blood splattered treatise of hate
Class dismissed is my hypothesis
Gun fire ends the debate
All I ever wanted was a little affection
But no one ever gave it to me
My hate primer's the result of my rejection
You'll die for it, and I'll die for thee

I instruct you
And I destruct you
I deconstruct you
Until my hate has ****ed you
Wonder if that's what that little scumbag Dylan roof listened to...

More fitting for the columbine shooters though.

^There was a group of fd up individuals... to define that song is easy... weakling who'd been rejected either by a girl or group of friends. Fuggem their loss kiddo. They're not worth killing, nor ruining your life in the process. Got a bully? Do what I did, pop him in the jaw. Girl reject you? Good. Focus on you, build yourself better so when she's available again and shows any sign of interest in you, pull the pedestal out from under her stand her up and date her best friend or cousin
 
Old 06-14-2017, 07:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LeaveWI View Post
You can't fight like a man-therefore you want a gun. Too cowardly, lazy and out of shape to learn how to defend yourself without a firearm. Case closed.
Lol. Have fun fighting off armed intruders with your broomstick


What a joke
 
Old 06-14-2017, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Originally Posted by Jo48 View Post
I have to give them credit on this one. An lone, overweight, elderly man armed with a knife or baseball bat, running around a baseball field trying to attack Congresspeople probably young enough to be his children? Laughable, but put a gun in his hand and it is deadly.

THIS is the real issue, not politics, not religion, not even mental illness. Guns. Sorry, NRA, MORE guns are not the solution. "Rounding Third, Carrying an AK-47, and Headed for Home" ???????? NO, NRA. LESS guns is what is needed.

I am a Sanders supporter, who voted for Hillary. Senseless Violence, be that against a Democrat, Republican, Black Churchgoers, or School Children.

Eliminate the MEANS, and the Motive becomes Moot.
Never let a tragedy go to waste, right? Just can't wait to start exploiting the victims to push your agenda.

10,000,000 more guns in the US EVERY SINGLE YEAR and violent crime has been dropping for 30 years. And you say more guns are not the solution. Clearly they aren't the problem liberals dream they are.
 
Old 06-14-2017, 07:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Floorist View Post
I am 69 and have arthritis, since I can't defend myself without a gun, you think I should just let them kill me?
You are awfully brave on a keyboard. Wonder how you are in real life.
 
Old 06-14-2017, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Missouri
4,272 posts, read 3,787,515 times
Reputation: 1937
[quote=PedroMartinez;48506969]Guns are a tool. It takes a person for them to kill.

If a person wants to kill someone, they don't need a gun.



.../QUOTE]

Yeah, but a gun makes it a whole hell of a lot easier, if you are so inclined to kill someone.
 
Old 06-14-2017, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
12,149 posts, read 8,417,223 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jo48 View Post
Why do you want to own a gun? Just because I want one and it is my right? Not good enough. Establish a NEED, as many state do have on the books.

It certainly should be interesting to see the NRA response to this. I also read that this man was an out of state resident, meaning he had to take his guns across state lines, which NRA thinks should be legal across state lines. Do you favor that also? Carry permits universal across the country?

You cannot escape this issue. Gun control.

I'm sure you wanted to post this, and I understand about the 1st amendment, but did you really have a "need" to free speech?

And abortion. Sure it's a right. But I think establishing a need is worthwhile.

That speedy trial you are guaranteed? Prove a need or rot in prison.

Women have the right to vote. But do they really "need" to vote?

Liberals are effing retards sometimes.
 
Old 06-14-2017, 07:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TamaraSavannah View Post
This reminds me of arguments I occasionally hear from a crime victim when an offender has been arrested and they are demanding something about them and they have to be told, "Ma'am, he has rights." and their response is,

"WELL, WHAT ABOUT MY RIGHTS?".

I would love to be able to respond with, "Which rights are you referring to, Ma'am?" but of course, I can't say that, it would be a PR nightmare.

Hence for those who are saying, "Well, what about my rights?" I would suggest you refer to your Constitutions, state and federal, to figure out just what rights you are talking about.
That doesn't surprise me. When we had that attempted break in, my husband called the NYPD after. I pushed out our upper story metal window fan crashing to the ground by the burglar, while my husband was getting his gun, and the burglar ran away. My husband told the NYPD that he had a gun and was ready to use it. The cops told him that if that ever happened again, he had better be prepared to shoot him dead because, "Dead Men tell no tales".

The cops laughed at what I did. Quick thinking and reflexes. "Imagine HER with a gun". NYPD. ROLF

Anyway, we compromised on the 2nd Amendment rights. He gets to keep his guns, but they are locked up, kept away from me. I certainly have to the right to not know how to use or shoot a gun in my own household under the Constitution? I think so.

Still old men and guns? Great Equalizer.
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