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Old 07-21-2017, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Gainesville, FL
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Correct, but certain Natural Rights are specifically upheld by the Constitution, and guaranteed not to be infringed. Right?
That is the origin of the bill of rights and the downside as well (i.e. the fact that people interpret enumerated as granted and therefore can be rescinded).

 
Old 07-21-2017, 07:45 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I know, crazy talk huh?!?! Seems like simple common sense changes needed for the 2nd...
That is why, you don't think for me.
 
Old 07-21-2017, 07:49 AM
 
Location: PSL
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That is why, you don't think for me.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/cmp...1-legislation/

Woohoo!
 
Old 07-21-2017, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Gainesville, FL
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This link isn't working for me but it could be my work filtering it.
 
Old 07-21-2017, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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That is the origin of the bill of rights and the downside as well (i.e. the fact that people interpret enumerated as granted and therefore can be rescinded).

Totally agree. Our Natural Rights can not be rescinded by Government. Government does not grant us rights! If the 2A did not exist, I would still have a right to defend myself with whatever means I could.
 
Old 07-21-2017, 07:58 AM
 
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This thread exemplifies why the democrats have more trouble getting control of the Senate than one would expect.

Inner cities have taken the cheap way out when dealing with gangs, drugs and poverty. Rather than take responsibility of course, like any good politician they blame their rivals or outsiders (sound familiar?).
 
Old 07-21-2017, 08:03 AM
 
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Totally agree. Our Natural Rights can not be rescinded by Government. Government does not grant us rights! If the 2A did not exist, I would still have a right to defend myself with whatever means I could.

You still do have the right. They just believe that they can prosecute you for using it
 
Old 07-21-2017, 08:05 AM
 
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Why do you want to own a gun? Just because I want one and it is my right? Not good enough. Establish a NEED, as many state do have on the books.

It certainly should be interesting to see the NRA response to this. I also read that this man was an out of state resident, meaning he had to take his guns across state lines, which NRA thinks should be legal across state lines. Do you favor that also? Carry permits universal across the country?

You cannot escape this issue. Gun control.
The need is established in the second amendment. No point in discussing why anyone needs one.

There is nothing wrong with carrying a gun across state lines, what is your point?
 
Old 07-21-2017, 08:12 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The need is established in the second amendment. No point in discussing why anyone needs one.

There is nothing wrong with carrying a gun across state lines, what is your point?
I carry guns across State lines all the time, then back again all legally.


Why these anti gun types enter into discussions about stuff they know zero about
 
Old 07-21-2017, 08:16 AM
 
Location: PSL
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This link isn't working for me but it could be my work filtering it.
Oh I'll just quote what's important then...
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Last Friday the House of Representatives passed the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA, which includes the language necessary to surplus the handguns. This will make it possible for the Army to transfer some 100,000 .45 ACP Model 1911 pistols to the CMP.

“Transfer of these historically-significant firearms would ease a burden on the government’s heavily indebted balance sheet and help preserve important artifacts from the era when the U.S. military defended Western Civilization from worldwide fascism and aggressive Communist expansion.”

If passed, the CMP will be able to transfer these guns to buyers the same way new guns are sold. Buyers will undergo background checks and stores would have to keep records of the transfers in-store.

Although the pistols, which were in service starting in the Philippine-American war before World War I, come with the original 7-round magazines, the NRA expects some legislators to push back against the bill. The NRA is asking gun rights supporters and gun collectors to contact their representatives to urge them to sign on to this legislation.
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