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Old 06-18-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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In a system of taxation, a flat tax is fair because the more you make the more yo pay.

Hypothetically, if you had a tax system with a 20% flat tax, a family making $10,000 pays $2,000 in taxes while a family making $1 million pays $200,000 in taxes.

The rich family pays $198,000 more than the poor family.
Thats redistribution of wealth. You are clearly a communist.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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you'd have to ask Obama and his Justice Department. he is responsible for the lack of even a single arrest or prosecution of any senior Wall Street banker for the systemic fraud that precipitated the 2008 financial crisis
So the GOP are now ready to prosecute the Wall Streeters that fund their re-election campaigns? Or were they ready in 2009?

Tell us which GOP Wall Street puppets you have voted for in the last few years.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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So the GOP are now ready to prosecute the Wall Streeters that fund their re-election campaigns? Or were they ready in 2009?

Tell us which GOP Wall Street puppets you have voted for in the last few years.
The GOP is not responsible for Obama's lack of actions here.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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The GOP is not responsible for Obama's lack of actions here.
The GOP voters blaming Obama for Wall Street redistribution of wealth while they continue to vote for GOP Wall Street puppets are just deflecting. They KNOW they are voting for puppets who laugh in their face and transfer their money to the Wall Street donors. But they prepare to not discuss this inconvenient truth. Much better to talk about how Obama is the reason nothing gets done.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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The GOP voters blaming Obama while they continue to vote for GOP Wall Street puppets are just deflecting.

Mostly true but the GOP is not responsible for Obama's lack of actions.

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They KNOW they are voting for puppets who laugh in their face and transfer their money to the Wall Street donors. But they prepare to not discuss this inconvenient truth. Much better to talk about how Obama is the reason nothing gets done.
Sure, but the (D)'s did the same with Obama and wanted to do the same with Hillary.

IMO you can not condemn people for doing the same thing you (big picture you) do.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:51 AM
 
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Where does printing trillions of dollars to prop up Wall Street fit into this?
It doesn't prop up Wall Street. It props up the $27 trillion worth of investments held in the pensions/retirement accounts of America's workers and retirees.

You expect to collect your pension, no?
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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Automation is NOT going to hit only one market.



It's not just one market. This is the problem many have when discussing an issue. They only see the small picture.




Tesla is and wants to sell direct. There goes your employee's. You get on the internet and order the car you want.



You no longer needs tools for oil changes.



When millions are no longer working fast food that creates a glut of employees which drives down wages. Now we will be able to hire mechanics at minimum wage.



I do not care what you once did. Wages are also a small part of the cost of a burger.
LOL at thinking tesla is going to make affordable cars in the next 10 years when you can pick up an econobox ford chevy Nissan Toyota Kia for 13-15k brand new.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:55 AM
 
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LOL at thinking tesla is going to make affordable cars in the next 10 years when you can pick up an econobox ford chevy Nissan Toyota Kia for 13-15k brand new.
Again....small thinking. When direct selling works for Tesla all the rest will follow.

Think.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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How come this didn't apply to Wall Street? When they screwed up the government stepped in and propped them up.
Wall Street didn't screw up, the Fed Gov did. All the details, here:

How the Fed Gov caused the Great Recession, and why the Federal Reserve had to create $2 trillion in QE to bail out Fannie and Freddie
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:59 AM
 
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Mostly true but the GOP is not responsible for Obama's lack of actions.



Sure, but the (D)'s did the same with Obama and wanted to do the same with Hillary.

IMO you can not condemn people for doing the same thing you (big picture you) do.
Of course I can call out these people who vote for Wall Street puppets while refusing to admit that they do. Who is trying to dismantle the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? Is it the GOP Wall Street puppets who are swimming in campaign cash from big shots on Wall St? Yes, it is.

Will the GOP voters continue to support their puppets when the CFPB is eliminated? Yes, absolutely. Will they support their puppets when worker's trade union movement is totally destroyed? Absolutely. Erosion of the minimum wage? No problem, the GOP got the vote of a huge chunk of working stiffs. How about anti-worker trade deals? No problem, they are written by Wall Street lawyers and lobbyists and the GOP will continue to get support for this from working stiffs across the nation. How about weakening anti-trust laws? Is this something working stiffs voting for the GOP can get behind? Yes it is. Just distract people with the McDonalds worker demanding higher pay and the muslim or some crime hysteria or something else and the GOP got their vote.
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