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an 80% is not considered a firearm nor are you required to have ID to purchase. It's a "part". Maybe if you tried to do it in one transaction. Never said it was a loophole.
Um, I'm not sure of the point of your post. My post referenced receivers. Your post doesn't.
Two-time Obama voter, firearm owner, and CHL holder who is no fan of the NRA here ... I agree with your post 100%.
The NRA is one of the main reasons our 2nd Amendment is as compromised as it is today.
Instead of fighting for our true right under GOD, they look to compromise a settlement so they don't take them all.
Strong Second Amendment advocates have developed this narrative that Democrats, especially under the Obama administration, wanted to confiscate guns from law abiding citizens. The image is typically armies of government agents in black masks going from home to home breaking down doors to take people's weapons. Anybody rational knows that this is paranoia with no basis in reality but the fact of the matter is that the paranoia exists and it was hugely instrumental in getting Trump elected. "Obama wants to take our guns" was the mantra all across rural America. Obama didn't really help the situation when he would use the aftermath of mass shootings to talk about gun control.
Question is, are there Democrats that really want to take it as far as to confiscate guns from law abiding citizens? The things I've heard proposed are things like stricter background checks and bans on certain types of assault rifles, but not the apocalyptic, totalitarian gun grab that the NRA and conservatives fearmonger could happen under Democratic leadership.
What do you think? Is the NRA crowd's paranoia based in reality or is it simply tinfoil hat paranoia? This is important because as I stated, it was hugely instrumental in the election of Trump. A lot of people voted Trump specifically because they feared Obama and/or Hillary wanted to attempt a gun grab.
We saw Democrat-led gun confiscation with the NY "SAFE Act" and Connecticut's most recent gun control legislation (and for reasons as simple as people having formally been prescribed simple anti-anxiety medication). We also saw gun confiscation by Democrats during Hurricane Katrina, when gun rights were most important given all the riffraff running around looting, raping, etc. in the aftermath of the hurricane. And, yet, somehow New Orleans Democrats thought it would be a good idea to disarm law abiding citizens??
Two-time Obama voter, firearm owner, and CHL holder who is no fan of the NRA here ... I agree with your post 100%.
So you agree with that post, yet vote for candidates who you knew would appoint people to the Supreme Court and lower federal courts who would uphold such anti 2nd Amendment legislation?
Wasn't Obama going to take everyone's guns away? Well?
What happened?
Thankfully, we had a Supreme Court conservative-lite majority that ruled in two separate occasions that there was an individual right to keep and bear arms.
Strong Second Amendment advocates have developed this narrative that Democrats, especially under the Obama administration, wanted to confiscate guns from law abiding citizens. The image is typically armies of government agents in black masks going from home to home breaking down doors to take people's weapons. Anybody rational knows that this is paranoia with no basis in reality but the fact of the matter is that the paranoia exists and it was hugely instrumental in getting Trump elected. "Obama wants to take our guns" was the mantra all across rural America. Obama didn't really help the situation when he would use the aftermath of mass shootings to talk about gun control.
Question is, are there Democrats that really want to take it as far as to confiscate guns from law abiding citizens? The things I've heard proposed are things like stricter background checks and bans on certain types of assault rifles, but not the apocalyptic, totalitarian gun grab that the NRA and conservatives fearmonger could happen under Democratic leadership.
What do you think? Is the NRA crowd's paranoia based in reality or is it simply tinfoil hat paranoia? This is important because as I stated, it was hugely instrumental in the election of Trump. A lot of people voted Trump specifically because they feared Obama and/or Hillary wanted to attempt a gun grab.
Paranoia and irrationality about guns is not limited to gun owners or conservatives. Less than 1% of gun deaths come from assault rifles. The hysteria, paranoia & emotional based thinking behind those that have dedicated their lives to banning them is far more bizarre & illogical, imo. Same with silencers. Less than 1% of shootings involve silencers. Without looking it up, I guarantee that the % is similar for people using extended ammo clips. Why put so much time, focus & money into something that statistically and logically, is going to do next to nothing to reduce gun violence?
To answer your question though, yes, there sure are progressives who want a complete and total ban on all guns in our country. Heck, there are many now who even want to ban guns for police officers. Usually, they point to Europe. I'm looking at multiple articles right now from mainstream news sites after a quick google search, all advocating for a total ban, or an eventual total ban. Make no mistake, this is the end goal of the gun control industry. All the more moderate steps you mention are just stepping stones toward that end goal. Look at New York, where they banned semi-automatic pistols. That meant legal gun owners had to use old fashioned, six shooter, revolvers. Then they banned those & said five shots is the most you can have, essentially making it impossible for legal gun owners to own a gun. Gun companies have now begun producing five shot pistols. Is there any doubt that they will be banned next, in favor of four shot pistols, then 3, 2, 1?
Trump won because the shine of Obama wore off and people realized they'd been had. Then the D's ran Hillary Clinton, the least popular candidate they'd run in the modern era.
As for rural America, a traditional stronghold for the Democrats, the D's took such a hard left that they no longer stand for any of the things those rural D voters care about. Point blank, the party is only focused on urban voters & their issues. Open borders, transgender bathrooms, BLM protests/Cop hating, gun control, pro-choice, anti-Christianity....these are not things that are going to attract rural voters. The D's swung hard from middle of the road to extreme leftism & they did it in a very short time period. Those rural voters were gone forever, gun control or no gun control.
We saw Democrat-led gun confiscation with the NY "SAFE Act" and Connecticut's most recent gun control legislation (and for reasons as simple as people having formally been prescribed simple anti-anxiety medication). We also saw gun confiscation by Democrats during Hurricane Katrina, when gun rights were most important given all the riffraff running around looting, raping, etc. in the aftermath of the hurricane. And, yet, somehow New Orleans Democrats thought it would be a good idea to disarm law abiding citizens??
I'm not sure you can pin that on Democrats, since Bush was President and federal agencies/contractors were disarming people, but the point stands. It was one of the most concerning things in our history in terms of gun rights.
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Two-time Obama voter, firearm owner, and CHL holder who is no fan of the NRA here ... I agree with your post 100%.
I'm with ya. Liberal, firearm owner, had a CCW for 13 years.
The idea of the NRA is awesome, but I'm not a fan of it in its current form.
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