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Old 06-22-2017, 05:33 AM
 
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And who created/invented the supercomputer? Hint: it was not China or the Swiss..
Yeah because there is nothing like hanging on to what you did in the past.....this is such an old way of thinking.

We have to constantly be moving forward.
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:38 AM
 
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Yeah because there is nothing like hanging on to what you did in the past.....this is such an old way of thinking.

We have to constantly be moving forward.
If everybody stuck to their own inventions and never traded ideas with anybody else, we wouldn't be typing on computers right now. We'd probably be using candle light still, since lightbulbs would be for the rich if it weren't for the British invention of mass production, which Americans reverse engineered
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:46 AM
 
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If everybody stuck to their own inventions and never traded ideas with anybody else, we wouldn't be typing on computers right now. We'd probably be using candle light still, since lightbulbs would be for the rich if it weren't for the British invention of mass production, which Americans reverse engineered
Yes working together - a global effort to improve technology for all.

Sounds like a brilliant idea.......Wonder if we could pull a bunch of countries together to improve technology to improve how we do things and the impact on our environment. That would be amazing.
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:49 AM
 
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I am sure the US will try to get the top positions back soon.

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Supercomputers: United States Falls Behind China and Switzerland | Fortune.com

Two Chinese supercomputers and an upgraded supercomputer in Switzerland rank ahead of the U.S. in a biannual list of top supercomputers released Monday by the TOP500 organization, which tracks supercomputer speeds.

But it wasn’t all bad news for the U.S.
The U.S. has five of the top 10 supercomputers on the list, the most of any other country. Additionally, the U.S. has 169 supercomputers in the top 500, followed by China with 160.
1. Supercomputers don't make much commercial sense and they are mostly supported by the government aka taxpayers. If they were money pumping machines, each one of us would have had one already.

2. China and Swiss can't make supercomputers - they assemble them with virtually all the parts and software designed and/or made by US companies.

3. Supercomputers aren't difficult to assemble - just slap enough PCs together. The cost comes from power, cooling and maintenance. Instructions are available online to build your own.

So what's the big deal here? The market is working out perfectly. If they have money to burn, go right ahead!
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:55 AM
 
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Why are we ignoring the Swiss.
Don't those blue eyed blond hair sheep eaters have to pay something for their "white privilege" computers too. They don't even drive on the left or belong to the EU. They are wealthy too so lets take them down a notch. The nerve. We need to demand free chips from them at the least.
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Old 06-22-2017, 06:01 AM
 
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1. Supercomputers don't make much commercial sense and they are mostly supported by the government aka taxpayers. If they were money pumping machines, each one of us would have had one already.

2. China and Swiss can't make supercomputers - they assemble them with virtually all the parts and software designed and/or made by US companies.

3. Supercomputers aren't difficult to assemble - just slap enough PCs together. The cost comes from power, cooling and maintenance. Instructions are available online to build your own.

So what's the big deal here? The market is working out perfectly. If they have money to burn, go right ahead!
If they aren't difficult to assemble why don't we do that here in the USA. I hear we need jobs and manufacturing companies here in the USA.
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Old 06-22-2017, 06:02 AM
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Doesn't the NSA have vast top secret supercomputers, which are probably more powerful than anything the Chinese or Swiss have.

The NSA and other such agencies just can't tell the world, as everything is classified.

There are areas the size of football fields packed full of supercomputers in places such as Fort Meade.
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Old 06-22-2017, 06:02 AM
 
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If they aren't difficult to assemble why don't we do that here in the USA. I hear we need jobs and manufacturing companies here in the USA.
I said in my post already. Making supercomputers doesn't make money.
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Old 06-22-2017, 06:08 AM
 
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Doesn't the NSA have vast top secret supercomputers, which are probably more powerful than anything the Chinese or Swiss have.

The NSA and other such agencies just can't tell the world, as everything is classified.

There are areas the size of football fields packed full of supercomputers in places such as Fort Meade.
Yes, but they are taxpayers funded.

Not many companies having the need to crack encryption.
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Old 06-22-2017, 06:14 AM
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Yes, but they are taxpayers funded.

Not many companies having the need to crack encryption.
Still supercomputers though.
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