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Old 06-23-2017, 05:27 AM
 
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...The Dems managed to strike out by nominating someone who is simply a horrible horrible human.
BS.

Folks should be ashamed of themselves for being part of this Republican smear campaign, particularly when some of this BS propaganda is likely of Russian origin.
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Old 06-23-2017, 05:28 AM
 
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In the mean time, insurance company's, states, doctors, nurses, and the public in general are trying to decipher, navigate, evaluate how they are going to make a living and pay bills while dealing with federal laws that are apt to change from minute to minute. In the mean time, they are obligated to treat everyone who comes in the door with no guarantee they will ever get paid. The end result is health care centers shut down because they cannot afford to keep the doors open and no one gets health care.
Nailed it.
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Old 06-23-2017, 05:28 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Still for universal coverage from a payroll tax that covers the first 200 dollars and dollars over 2700. the gap between 200 and 2700 is the problem of the person. Double it for a family.
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Old 06-23-2017, 05:31 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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BS.

Folks should be ashamed of themselves for being part of this Republican smear campaign, particularly when some of this BS propaganda is likely of Russian origin.
BS. Folks should be ashamed of themselves for being not reading up on all the ills of the Clinton Foundation, private email servers, missing emails, DNC collaboration...

Had the Dems nominated someone with half a soul, they would have walked over Trump.
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Old 06-23-2017, 05:33 AM
 
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It's a mess.

And the biggest benefit for Trump and Republican voters -- it isn't Obamacare.

For most premiums will be same or higher for less.

But it isn't Obamacare -- YEAH!!!!

They didn't fix anything. .
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Old 06-23-2017, 05:58 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Because people are only able to get mega rich because of the systems that are in place and poor people these days are not equipped to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and climb out of poverty.
Sure, they are. Many do.

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Rich people can re-invest and re-invest their money and get richer and richer. They do not need another massive tax cut.
Shouldn't taxes be "fair?" Flat tax. Have everyone pay the same tax rate. Which still isn't totally fair because we'd still have one person paying SIGNIFICANTLY more than another for access to the EXACT SAME government services and benefits, but it's a more fair tax system than we have now.

$50,000 earner pays $7,500

$5,000,000 earner pays $750,000

For the EXACT SAME THING.

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Meanwhile the lower and middle class are scraping by.
That's a lifestyle CHOICE. They don't have to be.

Read The Millionaire Next Door. 80% of US millionaires are first-generation wealthy.

NY Times has Chapter One published here:
The Millionaire Next Door
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Old 06-23-2017, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Who feels the flat tax the most the guy earning 5 Mill or 50k. The guy making 5 Mill still has 4.24 mil while the 50k guy has 42.5 left.
That's why flat taxes are the most ridiculous idea pushed by the GOP. See the problem when % hit real numbers.

No the person making the most from this county and its laws should be willing to pay more. Only a fool would want this nation to have the same tax system as Greece. One which the GOP is trying to do.
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Old 06-23-2017, 06:21 AM
 
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Too bad Trump voters are too fixated on "winning" seats. Their moto is I'll give you everything, as long as a Democrat doesn't get elected..

Too focused on the players and not the game itself.
So, you're saying they are the same as those who voted for Hillary?
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Old 06-23-2017, 06:26 AM
 
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No the person making the most from this county and its laws should be willing to pay more. Only a fool would want this nation to have the same tax system as Greece. One which the GOP is trying to do.
Wow, you really just can't get math can you?

Let me help you:

10% of $50,000 is $5,000
10% of $5,000,000 is $500,000
$500,000 > $5,000

Now, which part of this basic math is so confusing to you that prevents you from comprehending that under a flat tax, people who earn more pay more?

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Old 06-23-2017, 06:30 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Who feels the flat tax the most the guy earning 5 Mill or 50k.
Which guy pays the most? And why should one guy pay 10, 20, 50, 100, etc., times more than the other for THE EXACT SAME access to government services and benefits?
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