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Old 06-23-2017, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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I feel like an idiot for thinking of this before, but this guy has a pretty simple-sounding idea that sounds like about the best idea I've ever heard.

https://youtu.be/Ak-Y56SfkS0

The essence of the idea in the video is the following:

Step #1: Instigate a small tax on carbon emission production of businesses, small enough that it probably won't bankrupt any businesses. It'll just be enough to act as a warning to get their butts moving on lowering carbon emissions.

Step #2 and #3: slowly raise the carbon tax over time, giving businesses time to change. Put the money gained from the tax in a pot.

Step#4: Prices will undoubtedly raise due to the carbon tax, so to counter that, give the money in the aforementioned tax pot back to the American people. So, gas prices rise, but we each get a check right out of the pockets of the oil companies. It would be the same amount for everyone.

Step #5: put another tax on incoming goods from all nations that don't have a similar system.

So, we redistribute the wealth from heavy carbon producers to the average Joe and environmentally friendly companies, without messing up our economy.

Note that the video doesn't get to those above points until after the 11 minute mark.

Why isn't such a tax in existence yet?

Maybe we could introduce a carbon tax on individuals as well. That way we get to raid Al Gore's bank account when he flies in his private jets, but that sounds like it would be trickier to enact.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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I feel like an idiot for thinking of this before, but this guy has a pretty simple-sounding idea that sounds like about the best idea I've ever heard.

https://youtu.be/Ak-Y56SfkS0

The essence of the idea in the video is the following:

Step #1: Instigate a small tax on carbon emission production of businesses, small enough that it probably won't bankrupt any businesses. It'll just be enough to act as a warning to get their butts moving on lowering carbon emissions.

Step #2 and #3: slowly raise the carbon tax over time, giving businesses time to change. Put the money gained from the tax in a pot.

Step#4: Prices will undoubtedly raise due to the carbon tax, so to counter that, give the money in the aforementioned tax pot back to the American people. So, gas prices rise, but we each get a check right out of the pockets of the oil companies. It would be the same amount for everyone.

Step #5: put another tax on incoming goods from all nations that don't have a similar system.

So, we redistribute the wealth from heavy carbon producers to the average Joe and environmentally friendly companies, without messing up our economy.

Note that the video doesn't get to those above points until after the 11 minute mark.

Why isn't such a tax in existence yet?

Maybe we could introduce a carbon tax on individuals as well. That way we get to raid Al Gore's bank account when he flies in his private jets, but that sounds like it would be trickier to enact.
"Why isn't such a tax in existence yet? "

Because ANY carbon tax is a joke.
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Old 06-23-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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I feel like an idiot for thinking of this before, but this guy has a pretty simple-sounding idea that sounds like about the best idea I've ever heard.

https://youtu.be/Ak-Y56SfkS0

The essence of the idea in the video is the following:

Step #1: Instigate a small tax on carbon emission production of businesses, small enough that it probably won't bankrupt any businesses. It'll just be enough to act as a warning to get their butts moving on lowering carbon emissions.

Step #2 and #3: slowly raise the carbon tax over time, giving businesses time to change. Put the money gained from the tax in a pot.

Step#4: Prices will undoubtedly raise due to the carbon tax, so to counter that, give the money in the aforementioned tax pot back to the American people. So, gas prices rise, but we each get a check right out of the pockets of the oil companies. It would be the same amount for everyone.

Step #5: put another tax on incoming goods from all nations that don't have a similar system.

So, we redistribute the wealth from heavy carbon producers to the average Joe and environmentally friendly companies, without messing up our economy.

Note that the video doesn't get to those above points until after the 11 minute mark.

Why isn't such a tax in existence yet?

Maybe we could introduce a carbon tax on individuals as well. That way we get to raid Al Gore's bank account when he flies in his private jets, but that sounds like it would be trickier to enact.
oh yes this is absolutely brilliant!! yes lets go ahead and make businesses pay more in taxes and raise those taxes over time, and then refund those taxes back to the american people by forcing the businesses to pay for the refunds.

yeah that is brilliant. we can cause huge inflation and at the same time destroy the economy. what a brilliant idea!! yes please lets do it to show just how stupid ideas like this truly are. unfortunately we may not have much of an economy left when its all over.
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Old 06-23-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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I wouldn't mind a flat environmental tax. Offer tax rebates to companies that meet EPA standards and reduce their carbon imprint. Then increase of taxes by .05% to those that don't meet those standards.
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Old 06-23-2017, 11:49 AM
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The minute you start a tax, you're doomed. When the DNC takes over (eventually they will), they will immediately raise this tax.
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Old 06-23-2017, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Grant tax returns to companies that meet EPA standards and reduce their carbon imprint. .
I like this idea a lot.

We will NOT penalize companies that don't meet certain EPA emissions standards, but we WILL give sizable tax breaks to those that do .

Rewarding companies that do find ways to cut emissions, and giving companies that don't incentive to try.

I have no idea how anybody could disagree with that. Nice one, RunD
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Old 06-23-2017, 11:59 AM
 
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I have a better idea. don't let progressives near the levers of government.


see there? I just saved the world.
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:04 PM
 
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I like this idea a lot.

We will NOT penalize companies that don't meet certain EPA emissions standards, but we WILL give sizable tax breaks to those that do .

Rewarding companies that do find ways to cut emissions, and giving companies that don't incentive to try.

I have no idea how anybody could disagree with that. Nice one, RunD
Thank Gary Johnson he mentioned it during his campaign for President.

My only 2 concerns would be ensuring the money collected in taxes goes to support the environment. That this wouldn't be abused by corruption via people paying people off.

Not sure if a concern or not Businesses that cause a negative impact on the environment have to foot their own bill to clean up.

Remember an article mentioned a while back where the Government offers money to industrial agricultural farms to clean up any environmental impact. However, article pointed that money should be allocated to assist smaller farms and educate smaller farms on sustainable farming techniques.

Also should have more involvement with charity services integrating with various departments that deal with the environment in the U.S.

Money collected should also go to progressing the U.S. forward and fund research in ways can increase sustainability.

End energy subsidies leave it to the market to decide which energy grows and doesn't grow.
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:12 PM
 
Location: USA
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Sounds good in theory. But this is America. You know that the tax money will just go into someone's back pocket.
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by Clintone View Post
I feel like an idiot for thinking of this before, but this guy has a pretty simple-sounding idea that sounds like about the best idea I've ever heard.

https://youtu.be/Ak-Y56SfkS0

The essence of the idea in the video is the following:

Step #1: Instigate a small tax on carbon emission production of businesses, small enough that it probably won't bankrupt any businesses. It'll just be enough to act as a warning to get their butts moving on lowering carbon emissions.

Step #2 and #3: slowly raise the carbon tax over time, giving businesses time to change. Put the money gained from the tax in a pot.

Step#4: Prices will undoubtedly raise due to the carbon tax, so to counter that, give the money in the aforementioned tax pot back to the American people. So, gas prices rise, but we each get a check right out of the pockets of the oil companies. It would be the same amount for everyone.

Step #5: put another tax on incoming goods from all nations that don't have a similar system.

So, we redistribute the wealth from heavy carbon producers to the average Joe and environmentally friendly companies, without messing up our economy.

Note that the video doesn't get to those above points until after the 11 minute mark.

Why isn't such a tax in existence yet?

Maybe we could introduce a carbon tax on individuals as well. That way we get to raid Al Gore's bank account when he flies in his private jets, but that sounds like it would be trickier to enact.

Sounds like a pretty hefty tax to me. No thanks. We have more than enough taxes already.
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