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Why should an employer be obligated to pay an employees health insurance ?
Should they also pay all their other insurances too ? Auto ,home , life etc ?
Employers should be allowed to pay the benefits they chose to pay and not be obligated to pay.
since you are fine with a lot of businesses going out of business how will the laid off employees live ?
Just raise taxes more ?
I'm sorry. If you are going to run a business then why do you get to reap the benefits while treating your employees like slaves. This is why many don't like unions.. They get away with this.
Republicans are fine with billion dollar tax cuts for the wealthy, but give struggling workers a raise in pay and they scream like little girls.
If a worker is struggling, that's their own fault. $15 isn't enough. $16 isn't enough. $17 isn't enough. No matter what the minimum wage is, it will still be the minimum.
The taxes wealthy pay isn't enough. Struggling workers don't make enough money and have no desire to earn more money. Why wait 2-4 years for the government to raise the "minimum" wage when there are ways to increase income now?
Workers can sign up for overtime. Apply for positions within. Get a second job. (May as well since they aren't good enough at their first job). They can write a book. They can get better at the current job, take the knowledge and skills elsewhere.
If someone isn't willing to hire someone away from their current job, they aren't worth a nickel that dropped in the drainage.
I live in city and state that has passed this $15 min wage law .
Prices at places have risen significantly and the wage isn't even close to $15 .
Liberals are really playing games with the economy .
Article mentions that Eric Garcetti told concerned small business owners
"I feel confident that you can absorb the cost."
"As for the mayor of Los Angeles, it should be noted that he worked on a Ph.D.at the London School of Economics. But at this famed institute, Garcetti did not study economics. He studied "ethnicity and nationalism.""
--- Minimum wage laws are destroying jobs
If a worker is struggling, that's their own fault. $15 isn't enough. $16 isn't enough. $17 isn't enough. No matter what the minimum wage is, it will still be the minimum.
The taxes wealthy pay isn't enough. Struggling workers don't make enough money and have no desire to earn more money. Why wait 2-4 years for the government to raise the "minimum" wage when there are ways to increase income now?
Workers can sign up for overtime. Apply for positions within. Get a second job. (May as well since they aren't good enough at their first job). They can write a book. They can get better at the current job, take the knowledge and skills elsewhere.
If someone isn't willing to hire someone away from their current job, they aren't worth a nickel that dropped in the drainage.
The problem is not that the minimum wage is too low. The problem is that The Rent Is Too High. The rent is too high because homeowners have vested financial and lifestyle interests in maintaining a shortage of housing affordable to minimum wage workers. (It's called "zoning", "ballot box zoning", "NIMBY", "slow growth". "smart growth", "no growth", etc.)
WhereTF can minimum wage workers sign up for overtime? Minimum wage employers - especially corporate fast food chains - have rigid cost structures and the corporate hierarchy to enforce them. When I delivered pizzas, one week I worked 48 hours and the response of my manager was to NEVER let me work 40 hours (let alone 48) ever again.
If you are a landlord and you know renters have more money in their pockets, why wouldn't you raise the rent? The only way to prevent that from happening is to have more rentals, and that's not what is happening. Problem is politicians are in charge of the economy.
Right. Because homeowners use zoning to maintain a shortage of housing affordable to minimum wage workers, landlords are enabled to keep rents high. Because minimum wage increases do NOTHING to resolve that shortage of housing affordable to minimum wage workers, no minimum wage increase will EVER be sufficient, and the wage increase will merely enable landlords to raise rents further, prompting demands for another minimum wage increase.
Inconvenient truth: Homeowners have no desire to resolve the underlying problem.
Actually the problem is landlords don't want more housing to be built. The more housing supply there is the more prices go down
It's more relevant that it's homeowners who don't want more housing. Developers want more housing; the relevant issue locally is whether homeowners or developers prevail in making zoning policy.
If a worker is struggling, that's their own fault. $15 isn't enough. $16 isn't enough. $17 isn't enough. No matter what the minimum wage is, it will still be the minimum.
The taxes wealthy pay isn't enough. Struggling workers don't make enough money and have no desire to earn more money. Why wait 2-4 years for the government to raise the "minimum" wage when there are ways to increase income now?
Workers can sign up for overtime. Apply for positions within. Get a second job. (May as well since they aren't good enough at their first job). They can write a book. They can get better at the current job, take the knowledge and skills elsewhere.
If someone isn't willing to hire someone away from their current job, they aren't worth a nickel that dropped in the drainage.
So buy your logic there should be no minimum wage. The US can be like China the land of virtual slavery. The conservative wet dream.
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Originally Posted by SportyandMisty
Please name one billion dollar tax cut to which you object.
Did I say billion dollar tax cut? I meant trillion dollar tax cut for Trump and his wealthy campaign donors. Trillion with a T.
I'm sorry. If you are going to run a business then why do you get to reap the benefits while treating your employees like slaves. This is why many don't like unions.. They get away with this.
Opening a business is a risk and big responsibility. The vast majority of business owners don't view or treat their employees like slaves . Just wondering do you know any actual small business owners ? This isn't the reality .
There is a big difference between small business and some of the big faceless corporations like Walmart .
But the pro $15 crowd treats them the same .
The reality is there are a ton of expenses and overheard with running a business it's not just labor .
Please speak to some small business owners and ask them if they think a $15 hr wage is a good idea .
Let's just use some common sense here.
If a store is selling a product for $500.00 presently, and the government comes along and raises people's wages, that company is now going to have to pay higher cost to operate it's business.
Now that $500.00 item is going to cost more to cover the increased cost to the store.
So you bought the item, which now cost more than it did before you got the wage increase.
How did getting a wage increase help, when everything you now purchase is costing you more?
Bob.
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