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Male circumcision has medical benefits. The UN has a program that teaches uncircumcised males in Africa how to properly wash their penis in order to reduce AIDS.
The myth of no benefits has been hyped pretty hard by the people who decided circumcision would be their cause. Once a person, who strongly yearns for a cause finds one, they tend to put aside most logic.
Im circumcised and was not harmed. I wouldn't even know I was circumcised had it never been explained to me what it was.
Ok, back on topic. We can debate this elsewhere.
Not that I see all that wrong with straying from topic now and again, but yes, please, elsewhere with that one if you will...
My issue is the government overreach as it tries to police how people think.
"How people think" is what has essentially prevented minorities, gays, women from enjoying the same rights as others. When enough people began to feel strongly enough about those sorts of prejudices and injustices, strongly enough to do something about it, they worked to create laws that might help to correct or at least address those wrongs. To create such laws and have them enforced, we have little choice but to turn to government.
I suppose people like you will always view the net outcome of that simple process as government working to "police" how people think, but that's awfully arse-backwards if you ask me...
iow, you're wrong on both statements. The Constitution and federal law are Not equal and 'almost the entirety' of the court did Not support HL. You like to throw crazy stuff out there and then pretend you never said them.
I believe I proved before, it's a math-challenge problem...
"How people think" is what has essentially prevented minorities, gays, women from enjoying the same rights as others. When enough people began to feel strongly enough about those sorts of prejudices and injustices, strongly enough to do something about it, they worked to create laws that might help to correct or at least address those wrongs. To create such laws and have them enforced, we have little choice but to turn to government.
I suppose people like you will always view the net outcome of that simple process as government working to "police" how people think, but that's awfully arse-backwards if you ask me...
So you support the government regulating what its citizens think.
Maybe the government can have an organization that makes sure people are thinking right and convince people to turn in their neighbors.
How about you cut out the condescension right now? I'm on your side on the issue, and I'm just trying to clarify something. My motto (when I used to tutor high school science classes) was "If the student isn't learning, then I can't call what I am doing 'teaching.' " so right now the onus is on you to make your point clearer. Don't you dare speak to me again with a snotty "How can you possibly be confused?"
Now, continuing on as a lady and a gentleman....
If I substitute "The Supreme Court" for "that" (in the manner you have suggested), your sentence becomes "The Supreme Court is almost the entire makeup of the Court that ruled in favor of HL..." My apologies in advance for frustrating you with my lack of understanding, but that makes even less sense.
Ouch!
Order in the court! My compliments...
Interesting to think which side of this issue any of us may be on, because I'm pretty sure we are all on the side of allowing a "live and let live" outcome to prevail. Problem is, however, the way some people live is different from others, and some of those others can't help but demonstrate that heartburn rather than keep it private, even with regard to how consenting adults choose to live differently than they do.
Who is on the side of those people? Not me...
That this is a legal matter means we have another issue to consider, the legal one, the constitutional one. When is it legal to discriminate against someone or not? When should a person have the freedom to express their religious convictions or not?
Given the issues and questions the SC has had to decide in these regards, very often to the disappointment of those representing the status quo in these civil rights cases, ultimately changing that status quo, all I can say is that I am interested in what the SC decides, and perhaps even more interesting to me will be the legal argument supporting the majority opinion.
So you support the government regulating what its citizens think.
Maybe the government can have an organization that makes sure people are thinking right and convince people to turn in their neighbors.
How about naming it the Stasi?
So, your premise is wrong again, right out of the gates!
I support what way we have as a society to address wrong doing, whether that wrong doing is murder, theft, racism, sexism, child pornography, pedophilia, public intoxication, discrimination and so on...
Maybe you and your neighbors can do a better job?
Or are you just goading me into ongoing spins in these ridiculous circles that truly defy logic and reason?
I only WISH we didn't need government, much like I surely WISH there was peace and harmony on Earth, but hard for me to suspend reality in these regards like you seem able. Must be an awfully frustrating way to live, again unless you're kidding of course. Hard for me to tell which...
Interesting to think which side of this issue any of us may be on, because I'm pretty sure we are all on the side of allowing a "live and let live" outcome to prevail.
Just a couple of posts up, you seem to have endorsed the government restricting thought, and nothing can be more polar opposite of "live and let live" than that.
So, your premise is wrong again, right out of the gates!
I support what way we have as a society to address wrong doing, whether that wrong doing is murder, theft, racism, sexism, child pornography, pedophilia, public intoxication, discrimination and so on...
Maybe you and your neighbors can do a better job?
Or are you just goading me into ongoing spins in these ridiculous circles that truly defy logic and reason?
I only WISH we didn't need government, much like I surely WISH there was peace and harmony on Earth, but hard for me to suspend reality in these regards like you seem able. Must be an awfully frustrating way to live, again unless you're kidding of course. Hard for me to tell which...
Somebody must have hijacked your account and wrote this:
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Originally Posted by LearnMe
"How people think" is what has essentially prevented minorities, gays, women from enjoying the same rights as others. When enough people began to feel strongly enough about those sorts of prejudices and injustices, strongly enough to do something about it, they worked to create laws that might help to correct or at least address those wrongs. To create such laws and have them enforced, we have little choice but to turn to government.
I suppose people like you will always view the net outcome of that simple process as government working to "police" how people think, but that's awfully arse-backwards if you ask me...
So, your premise is wrong again, right out of the gates!
I support what way we have as a society to address wrong doing, whether that wrong doing is murder, theft, racism, sexism, child pornography, pedophilia, public intoxication, discrimination and so on...
Maybe you and your neighbors can do a better job?
Or are you just goading me into ongoing spins in these ridiculous circles that truly defy logic and reason?
I only WISH we didn't need government, much like I surely WISH there was peace and harmony on Earth, but hard for me to suspend reality in these regards like you seem able. Must be an awfully frustrating way to live, again unless you're kidding of course. Hard for me to tell which...
It wouldn't surprise me at all if you also supported the regulation of thought.
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