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I agree that he was clearly unjustified in what he did. But cops are trained for confrontations and still let their adrenaline get the better of them. Then they either have a whole system to protect them or they have those who make it their life to take them down for their own benefit. Had he decked the shoplifter and bloodied his nose, he would be blameless. Or even shot him in a physical confrontation while trying to detain him. I think the penalty was on the harsh side but the DA and law enforcement probably wanted to send a message to discourage the use of deadly force by citizens. The thing is, these outcomes are the best deterrent to crime. Would be victim is armed and kills criminal has got to wake up some would be offenders and make them less eager to commit a crime..
I agree that he was clearly unjustified in what he did. But cops are trained for confrontations and still let their adrenaline get the better of them. Then they either have a whole system to protect them or they have those who make it their life to take them down for their own benefit. Had he decked the shoplifter and bloodied his nose, he would be blameless. Or even shot him in a physical confrontation while trying to detain him. I think the penalty was on the harsh side but the DA and law enforcement probably wanted to send a message to discourage the use of deadly force by citizens. The thing is, these outcomes are the best deterrent to crime. Would be victim is armed and kills criminal has got to wake up some would be offenders and make them less eager to commit a crime..
Very true. I remember the following clip got a lot of bad press/controversy, mainly because the store owner was male and the female (who looked out of shape), looked like she could have been killed ala an Eric Garner situation. Plus there was the racial angle.
Another source of anger was that all of this occurred over items that cost a few dollars. To your point though, on the flip side, the press that this received made it be known to all potential shoplifters that this store owner will not go out without a fight, even if a shoplifter tries to steal items worth only a couple dollars. You best believe the shop owner's actions had potential shoplifters think twice about pulling anything in his store. These outcomes probably do deter some potential crime, as potential shoplifters will pick easier targets rather than places where they know will put up a fight.
This is where gun safety courses would come in. When you take the course to get say your Utah conceal carry permit, one of the things they teach is when you are allowed and not allowed to use deadly force. You can't simply shoot someone for stealing, if your life is not in direct danger, especially when they are fleeing. As a libertarian oriented individual I do believe people should be required to have training to get a license to own a firearm, just like you would to drive a car. That licence would allow you to conceal carry and use suppressors (for hearing protection) in all states that would agree to go along with the program. It would be a national conceal carry with set standards for the training except in states that refuse to go along with it (NY, IL, CA) who pretty much ban firearms for law abiding people and only allow them for criminals.
This is where gun safety courses would come in. When you take the course to get say your Utah conceal carry permit, one of the things they teach is when you are allowed and not allowed to use deadly force. You can't simply shoot someone for stealing, if your life is not in direct danger, especially when they are fleeing. As a libertarian oriented individual I do believe people should be required to have training to get a license to own a firearm, just like you would to drive a car. That licence would allow you to conceal carry and use suppressors (for hearing protection) in all states that would agree to go along with the program. It would be a national conceal carry with set standards for the training except in states that refuse to go along with it (NY, IL, CA) who pretty much ban firearms for law abiding people and only allow them for criminals.
As a "libertarian-oriented" person you would never endorse "requirements" for people to exercise their natural rights. You might want a more accurate label for your ideology. Libertarians believe that humans have every imaginable right short of aggression towards another. Being "required" to do anything before a person has access to any of their natural inalienable natural rights is not libertarian at all. That is a collectivist/statist view where rights are actually "privileges" granted or taken away by the whim of government.
Of course the shooter had no way of knowing the public service he performed when he shot the guy.
Operating convenience stores in certain neighborhoods is risky business. The risk is offset by a lack of competition and thus profit.
Which is what many are saying. It may not seem relevant (like someone else stated), but he did do a service for the community. Also when you add that his wife was shot a few weeks prior. I can't blame the man for defending his livelihood.
Just yesterday a former Green Beret who shot a guy three times in the back for breaking into his garage was acquitted of the crime. Jury finds Army Green Beret who killed intruder not guilty | FOX31 Denver
The sentence sounds about right, I am sure the shooter is filled with regret.
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