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Because so much time is given to the left entertainers and Obama and Hillary who are constantly going public with their comments and opinions.
Why is it that so much time is given to them and you NEVER COMPLAIN but, don't want any time given to the other side?
There is something very basic you don't understand:
All they can do is bark: woof, woof, woof..! In reality they can't do anything beyond "woof woof".
Trump is in office. He is the POTUS. Why are you all so insecure? Part of being president is showing confidence. A president doesn't have to respond to every comedian, journalist, Hollywood celebrity and "ex" something.
Not only that, but Trump's instant responses trigger more woof woof.
Look you can continue throwing that word around all you like; fact of the matter things are what they are.
If BO were white there wouldn't have been nearly so much noise during his eight years as POTUS nor now afterwards.
What is really bugging the DNC and some African Americans is the Obamas or at least BO is showing his true colors; the man and to an extent his missus are in it for themselves. Something white politicians have been doing for ages; but an AA person is supposed to care about lifting up "the community". Cleary thus far BO seems to have no to little time for such things.
Barak Obama went from being an obscure community activist, to US senator then POTUS in record time. His rise in both stature and fortunes has taken him and his family all over the world and they've become close to if not nearly BFF with everyone from royalty to the most wealthy and or influential of the American and international communities.
BO got into one of the last remaining supposedly "all white male" clubs in the USA; the WH. You and others can call the response in some sectors anything you like, but fact is (again) the fact an AA male "slipped in" played the game on his terms and largely won drove and still drives no small number of Americans up the wall.
Why do people always bring-up flying as an example of hypocrisy when it comes to climate change? On a per-passenger mile, air travel is far and away the most efficient and greenest form of long distance transportation currently available. Well, maybe electric trains powered by non-carbon fuels, but you ain't taking one of those to the South Pacific.
Duh!
We are NOT talking about commercial travel but by PRIVATE jet.
Look you can continue throwing that word around all you like; fact of the matter things are what they are.
If BO were white there wouldn't have been nearly so much noise during his eight years as POTUS nor now afterwards.
What is really bugging the DNC and some African Americans is the Obamas or at least BO is showing his true colors; the man and to an extent his missus are in it for themselves. Something white politicians have been doing for ages; but an AA person is supposed to care about lifting up "the community". Cleary thus far BO seems to have no to little time for such things.
Barak Obama went from being an obscure community activist, to US senator then POTUS in record time. His rise in both stature and fortunes has taken him and his family all over the world and they've become close to if not nearly BFF with everyone from royalty to the most wealthy and or influential of the American and international communities.
BO got into one of the last remaining supposedly "all white male" clubs in the USA; the WH. You and others can call the response in some sectors anything you like, but fact is (again) the fact an AA male "slipped in" played the game on his terms and largely won drove and still drives no small number of Americans up the wall.
Fact of the matter is racism was brought in by some others, not me.
Lefters tend to claim to accept all and are not racist, but tend to be the ones who are racist.
You can't speculate if Obama were white there wouldn't be nearly as much noise.
In court they call that non evidence.
You have no way of knowing that.
Obama said rich people aren't bad they just have to much money.
He has put himself in that category now.
What's good for the goose isn't good for th gander, I guess.
Fact of the matter is racism was brought in by some others, not me.
Lefters tend to claim to accept all and are not racist, but tend to be the ones who are racist.
You can't speculate if Obama were white there wouldn't be nearly as much noise.
In court they call that non evidence.
You have no way of knowing that.
Obama said rich people aren't bad they just have to much money.
He has put himself in that category now.
What's good for the goose isn't good for th gander, I guess.
Am sorry, but since this forum is largely about voicing opinions one can certainly "speculate" how race played a part in discussions about BO.
Am also equally sorry, but have to inform you that from day one as Obama went from local community activist to senator then POTUS his race has and continues to matter.
Several other political figures in American history had spectacular and quick rises (JFK comes to mind) and while there was some of the usual hate it came based upon the man's politics and perhaps religion. That mostly all simmered down.
Part of the Obama allure in fact perhaps a larger share has to do with his race, and this is a fact. After eight years of GWBII and other events people around the world were going giddy with the rise and fact that an AA man could (and did) become POTUS.
On the day BO won some wealthy Scandinavian businessman went out and purchased every single copy of the NYT or some local American paper he could lay hands upon. Indeed during his "rainbow tour" of Europe the summer before that November people were falling over themselves at worshiping BO. Why on earth do you think he was given the Nobel Peace Prize after being in office only a few months?
Michelle Obama is a highly educated professional woman who bought much to the table as FLOTUS; but there again the fact an AA woman occupied role solely and uniquely once the domain of white American women from our very best families drove and still drives certain people up the wall. They have nothing else to go at, but MO's race, and that is what many have done in the most crude and vulgar terms.
Meanwhile the jumped up former prostitute/escort from Eastern Europe is worshiped as the new
"respectable" holder of that office.
Fact of the matter is racism was brought in by some others, not me.
Lefters tend to claim to accept all and are not racist, but tend to be the ones who are racist.
You can't speculate if Obama were white there wouldn't be nearly as much noise.
In court they call that non evidence.
You have no way of knowing that.
Obama said rich people aren't bad they just have to much money.
He has put himself in that category now.
What's good for the goose isn't good for th gander, I guess.
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Originally Posted by BugsyPal
Am sorry, but since this forum is largely about voicing opinions one can certainly "speculate" how race played a part in discussions about BO.
Am also equally sorry, but have to inform you that from day one as Obama went from local community activist to senator then POTUS his race has and continues to matter.
Several other political figures in American history had spectacular and quick rises (JFK comes to mind) and while there was some of the usual hate it came based upon the man's politics and perhaps religion. That mostly all simmered down.
Part of the Obama allure in fact perhaps a larger share has to do with his race, and this is a fact. After eight years of GWBII and other events people around the world were going giddy with the rise and fact that an AA man could (and did) become POTUS.
On the day BO won some wealthy Scandinavian businessman went out and purchased every single copy of the NYT or some local American paper he could lay hands upon. Indeed during his "rainbow tour" of Europe the summer before that November people were falling over themselves at worshiping BO. Why on earth do you think he was given the Nobel Peace Prize after being in office only a few months?
Michelle Obama is a highly educated professional woman who bought much to the table as FLOTUS; but there again the fact an AA woman occupied role solely and uniquely once the domain of white American women from our very best families drove and still drives certain people up the wall. They have nothing else to go at, but MO's race, and that is what many have done in the most crude and vulgar terms.
Meanwhile the jumped up former prostitute/escort from Eastern Europe is worshiped as the new
"respectable" holder of that office.
I appreciate this post and your opinions, bugsy.
I am 100 % sure the Obama's have experienced racial discrimination in their lifetimes.
This thread was not about that
Where do I say that?
I said in two different posts it was how Obama commented on the rich and now he is in the same class.
I don't appreciate being called a racist. Nothing I said points to that.
It is ironic how I was being called the racist when the complaint by the posters who called me that is that Obama is being racially discriminated against in my OP topic
The guy and his family can take luxurious vacations and make millions on book deals.
I find it in the hypocritical realm though on how Obama spoke out against th rich during his campaign and presidency.
I am 100 % sure the Obama's have experienced racial discrimination in their lifetimes.
This thread was not about that
Where do I say that?
I said in two different posts it was how Obama commented on the rich and now he is in the same class.
I don't appreciate being called a racist. Nothing I said points to that.
It is ironic how I was being called the racist when the complaint by the posters who called me that is that Obama is being racially discriminated against in my OP topic
The guy and his family can take luxurious vacations and make millions on book deals.
I find it in the hypocritical realm though on how Obama spoke out against th rich during his campaign and presidency.
I think this is a reasonable thing to point out but I honestly never felt like he was unduly harsh on rich people. I wasn't glued to everything the guy said in 8 years so I could have missed it but I think for the average joe they probably don't have this impression either. I mean... Michelle was a law firm partner. How much could they really have raged against the wealthy. And I don't think pointing out flaws means you hate a certain group... I'm happy to point out flaws in Dems, Reps, rich, poor, without thinking any of them are fundamentally evil/wrong/whatever.
I am 100 % sure the Obama's have experienced racial discrimination in their lifetimes.
This thread was not about that
Where do I say that?
I said in two different posts it was how Obama commented on the rich and now he is in the same class.
I don't appreciate being called a racist. Nothing I said points to that.
It is ironic how I was being called the racist when the complaint by the posters who called me that is that Obama is being racially discriminated against in my OP topic
The guy and his family can take luxurious vacations and make millions on book deals.
I find it in the hypocritical realm though on how Obama spoke out against th rich during his campaign and presidency.
Well on that score hate to break to you, but myself and others had Obama down as a "hypocrite" almost from the get go.
Notice how fast he "evolved" on the issue of same sex marriage when gays (especially white gays and their supporters, who then and now are some of the wealthiest pals Obama has), told him unless he got with the program no more money would be forthcoming.
Live in NYC and also here to tell you Obama and the "one percent" have been cozy for a long time. Numerous times parts of the Upper East Side (the very wealthy part of NYC) was blocked off along Park, Madison or Fifth avenues because Obama was being feted or hosted by one of Manhattan's wealthy elite families. Ditto for other haunts in NYC of the rich and famous such as Greenwich Village, West Village, Tribeca....
Barack Obama had a very cozy relationship to Wall Street and was here all the time attending this or that fundraiser or event held on his behalf.
Here is a little secret; many assume WASPs/conservatives still are running things and or are the powers behind Wall Street or other wealthy sectors. Not a bit of it.
While the Koch bothers are a force to be watched a huge portion of the "one percent" is made up of the billionaires and millionaires that form a large part of the liberal/left base. Tech giants such as Steve Cook, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and so forth all of who have more money/are worth more in assets than many with names like Vanderbilt or Rockefeller.
Look at where the Obamas took these vacations that are ticking some people off and who owns those properties. The Obamas aren't just part of the "rich" but mingling and perhaps now firmly part of what is called the "global/international" wealthy.
I am 100 % sure the Obama's have experienced racial discrimination in their lifetimes.
This thread was not about that
Where do I say that?
I said in two different posts it was how Obama commented on the rich and now he is in the same class.
I don't appreciate being called a racist. Nothing I said points to that.
It is ironic how I was being called the racist when the complaint by the posters who called me that is that Obama is being racially discriminated against in my OP topic
The guy and his family can take luxurious vacations and make millions on book deals.
I find it in the hypocritical realm though on how Obama spoke out against th rich during his campaign and presidency.
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Originally Posted by BicoastalAnn
I think this is a reasonable thing to point out but I honestly never felt like he was unduly harsh on rich people. I wasn't glued to everything the guy said in 8 years so I could have missed it but I think for the average joe they probably don't have this impression either. I mean... Michelle was a law firm partner. How much could they really have raged against the wealthy. And I don't think pointing out flaws means you hate a certain group... I'm happy to point out flaws in Dems, Reps, rich, poor, without thinking any of them are fundamentally evil/wrong/whatever.
I can see where you are coming from.
Myself, I remember Obama giving speeches on the rich etc.
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