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If you want to truly REPEAL the ACA, you need 60 votes in the Senate to pass a law that says: nullify the ACA. Good luck with getting 60 votes when a majority of the country is against it.
Not true actually.
Step 1. Change the rules of the Senate to only require a majority.
If the Republicans were really smart, they would Repeal Now, Replace Later (if ever). But they're not. They are still hung up on doing both, yet they had 8 years to come up with an idea to replace it. They are good at electoral strategy but poor on policy/governing strategy. Now their electoral advantage will erode in 2018.
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics
WHOA Bucko.
Let's recap a bit of history before you go totalitarian on us.
BEFORE GLORIOUS SOCIALISM (pre-1933)
AND BEFORE HEALTH INSURANCE
. . .
FAST FORWARD TO THE PRESENT Average Cost Per Inpatient Day Across 50 States in 2010
Hospital bed cost per day
United States
• State/local government hospitals — $1,625
• Non-profit hospitals — $2,025
• For-profit hospitals — $1,629
COST INCREASE : 40,725% increase ($1,629/$4)
($1,629/$4 = 407.25 X 100 = 40725%)
(Somebody has to pay for all the bureaucracy, malpractice insurance, paper work, clerks, adjusters, investigators, supervisors, guys in clown suits, etc, etc.)
This is the result of government meddling in medicine for over 120 years.
This is the result of “health insurance” adding costs that the patient is stuck with.
Who else has to pay all those stockholder dividends, officers, employees, and the costs for administrative paperwork, that physicians and hospitals must now deal with?
So think twice about "insurance" as something "good."
Before insurance and glorious socialism, people didn't go broke paying $5 or less for a hospital room.
Government is NOT the solution.
Insurance is NOT the solution.
Neither is Universal Health Care.
The solution is to cut out the middlemen and bureaucrats and administrators all taking a cut.
What about the poor, deserving or pitiful? "No one should suffer because they lack {fill in the blank}" should be prefaced with "No one should be compelled to labor for the benefit of another, so that..." because slavery is not an acceptable solution to the ills of mankind.
Voluntary charity is a blessing.
BUT
Compulsory charity is a curse.
Compelling one to work for the benefit of another is slavery, plain and simple.
Didn't we BAN that in Dec. 1865?
Adjust the figures for inflation. In 1962, $6 = $48 in 2016 dollars (which is why it's named Motel 6). So those nominal dollars in your example would be astronomical in 2016 dollars.
Too bad GOP supporters don't know anything about business except for long screeds of Gilded Age platitudes.
Face it, Obmamacare proves that there are such things as market failures. The health insurance industry-oriented, corporatist system is simply not sustainable!
I wish we could. But the cat is out of the bag now. People have bought into the notion that healthcare must be provided for by the government, and if you are poor you have bought into the idea that you cannot afford healthcare. So "somebody" has to pay.
When Obamacare was passed the future was told. Now and forever there must be a health care program for everyone, and the political parties will be forever counting - and courting - those who are left out.
The US still hasn't earned a seat at the grownup table in that respect.
I wish we could. But the cat is out of the bag now. People have bought into the notion that healthcare must be provided for by the government, and if you are poor you have bought into the idea that you cannot afford healthcare. So "somebody" has to pay.
When Obamacare was passed the future was told. Now and forever there must be a health care program for everyone, and the political parties will be forever counting - and courting - those who are left out.
Huh? Insurance companies still provide insurance for most people.
I don't think they want to repeal it. They just campaigned on that for reelection.
This is without a doubt the truth. And we know this because even after 60+ repeal votes, all of which passed without a problem, when they actaully had the numbers to repeal it they couldn't do it. All those votes were for the optics only. They had nothing to replace it with, and still don't, but they know that just yanking healthcare away from millions upon millions of Americans won't fly.
Yeah, they do know how to win, I'll give them that. But they absolutely suck once the election is over and the real hard work of governing begins. There are none so inept as Republicans trying to lead.
Repealing ACA isn't going to get you back to the good old days. You can cut out the middlemen and bureaucrats and administrators all day long, and you still aren't going to get affordable healthcare.[So you believe it won't be cheaper? OK] We are subsidizing healthcare for the rest of the world. Pharmaceuticals and other providers aren't going to magically lower their prices because ACA was repealed. Other countries have taken control of pricing in their own countries, and the providers make up for the lost revenue by charging Americans more. The only way to change that is for our country to take control of pricing here. Until our legislators get the courage to actually do what needs to be done, American citizens will be picked clean by the buzzards.
Ah, yes, put the weight of government's boot on their necks and their hearts and minds will follow....
Who needs freedom and liberty?
That's so-o-o 18th century - - -
Adjust the figures for inflation. In 1962, $6 = $48 in 2016 dollars (which is why it's named Motel 6). So those nominal dollars in your example would be astronomical in 2016 dollars. [Not true]
Inflation? Yes. Astronomical? No.
And no where near the hospital bed cost per day, thanks to insurance and socialist overhead.
• State/local government hospitals — $1,625
• Non-profit hospitals — $2,025
• For-profit hospitals — $1,629
Thanks to the insurance and government imposed costs, health care is astronomically expensive.
If they want to keep their junk plans they can. Otherwise just repeal it. Other people's problems are not my problems.
This may very well be the most un-American thing I've ever heard.
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