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Old 06-29-2017, 04:30 AM
 
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Keeping yet another campaign promise, the Trump Travel Ban will be going into effect today.

It also affects those who won a green card via the "Diversity" lobby if they are from one of the affected countries.

New Trump travel ban rules: Visa applicants from six Muslim-majority nations and all refugees will require 'close' family or business ties to the United States - and it starts TODAY
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:35 AM
 
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About the only thing it stops is tourists. If you have family, work, or school (probably about 99% of those coming from these countries), you can still come to the US. Yet, it is a big win. Yeah, right. That about like saying, I found a quarter on the street, now I'm rich.
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:42 AM
 
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About the only thing it stops is tourists. If you have family, work, or school (probably about 99% of those coming from these countries), you can still come to the US. Yet, it is a big win. Yeah, right. That about like saying, I found a quarter on the street, now I'm rich.
Let See
  • Before Travel Ban is Passed - End of the world, Trump is Hitler, multiple law suits, MSM goes crazy, leftists go to DEFCON 1, Governor Moonbeam of California makes declaration, windows smashed, business burned down.
  • After Travel Ban is Passed - No big deal. Trump has done nothing.
Nobody is taking you guys serious anymore.
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:44 AM
 
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There's should never have been any exceptions. The San Bernardino wife would have qualified as family. She was also Pakistani I believe showing again this ban doesn't go far enough and the Supreme Court messed up in limiting it.
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:46 AM
 
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Just the facts. Sorry if they are confusing.
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:48 AM
 
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Just the facts. Sorry if they are confusing.
You stated the Trump travel ban only stops tourists. That is 100% incorrect.

So no facts. Just your opinion.

But I will also point out that most of the terrorists who have come into the USA have done so on tourist visas.
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Old 06-29-2017, 05:06 AM
 
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Keeping yet another campaign promise, the Trump Travel Ban will be going into effect today.

It also affects those who won a green card via the "Diversity" lobby if they are from one of the affected countries.

New Trump travel ban rules: Visa applicants from six Muslim-majority nations and all refugees will require 'close' family or business ties to the United States - and it starts TODAY
Nope -- not as promised -- adjusted as per SCOTUS conditions.

SCOTUS 'fixed' the wording for the President.

Nothing wrong with slowing down issuance of visas or refugees granted entry but something wrong with denying entry to those with proper papers -- which the first two orders did not account for.
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Old 06-29-2017, 05:08 AM
 
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Nope -- not as promised -- adjusted as per SCOTUS conditions.
As Promised. And BTW, The Supreme CT. sided with Trump over the 9th Circuit. YUGE win for Trump.
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Old 06-29-2017, 05:13 AM
 
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You stated the Trump travel ban only stops tourists. That is 100% incorrect.

So no facts. Just your opinion.

But I will also point out that most of the terrorists who have come into the USA have done so on tourist visas.
By most -- you mean the 9/11 terrorists and none of them were issued visas from the countries listed in the ban.....The visas were issued from Saudia Arabia, The Emirates and Germany.


By your logic -- the order does not reflect where the most danger has been for USA.
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Old 06-29-2017, 05:15 AM
 
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By most -- you mean the 9/11 terrorists and none of them were issued visas from the countries listed in the ban.....The visas were issued from Saudia Arabia, The Emirates and Germany.


By your logic -- the order does not reflect where the most danger has been for USA.
Actually Yemen. One of the included countries. I take note you left that out.

Furthermore this is 2017 not 2001. Things have changed in all those countries.
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