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Just because some countries allow transgenders to serve in the military, doesn't mean we need to follow their example.
No one is saying America is the smartest being in the room. We have the biggest military in the world; we have the largest military budget. The combination of the two makes us different (different being the keyword, notice I did not say BEST) from every country in the world.
Bringing up other countries, in my opinion, is off topic at best.
No, it doesn't make us different in terms of ensuring rights for all Americans. Including the right to serve. How is comparing militaries across the world off topic as it relates to the same policy discussion?
No, it doesn't make us different in terms of ensuring rights for all Americans. Including the right to serve. How is comparing militaries across the world off topic as it relates to the same policy discussion?
well, then we have nothing to discuss about. I believe we have a different military, you don't. You believe this is a civil right issue, I don't.
Maybe we can just agree to disagree at this point.
No, it doesn't make us different in terms of ensuring rights for all Americans. Including the right to serve. How is comparing militaries across the world off topic as it relates to the same policy discussion?
Right to serve is true, but do they have a right to gender reassignment surgery after they enlist? I am supportive of a transgender's right to be who they are. I don't support using the military to deliver it. The defense budget is massive as is the mission. The money should be spent on the mission, not handing out free reassignment surgery and treatments. My concern is that some or many transgenders will see the military as a ticket to free treatment.
Right to serve is true, but do they have a right to gender reassignment surgery after they enlist? I am supportive of a transgender's right to be who they are. I don't support using the military to deliver it. The defense budget is massive as is the mission. The money should be spent on the mission, not handing out free reassignment surgery and treatments. My concern is that some or many transgenders will see the military as a ticket to free treatment.
Do you feel the same about other military benefits such as education, housing loans, vacation spots, and yes non-service related medical care?
Right to serve is true, but do they have a right to gender reassignment surgery after they enlist? I am supportive of a transgender's right to be who they are. I don't support using the military to deliver it. The defense budget is massive as is the mission. The money should be spent on the mission, not handing out free reassignment surgery and treatments. My concern is that some or many transgenders will see the military as a ticket to free treatment.
No, it doesn't make us different in terms of ensuring rights for all Americans. Including the right to serve. How is comparing militaries across the world off topic as it relates to the same policy discussion?
There is no right to serve in the military. Serving in the military is a privilege.
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Originally Posted by boneyard1962
Right to serve is true, but do they have a right to gender reassignment surgery after they enlist? I am supportive of a transgender's right to be who they are. I don't support using the military to deliver it. The defense budget is massive as is the mission. The money should be spent on the mission, not handing out free reassignment surgery and treatments. My concern is that some or many transgenders will see the military as a ticket to free treatment.
I disagree. "Right to serve" is not true, it is a privilege. The military rejects many, I have posted the list twice, one for physical and one for mental health issues. Because of the extensive medication and surgeries, transgenders like anyone else that might need medications and surgeries to that extent would be discharged.
If a transgendered as already completely transitioned and can meet the qualifications, those required of every other member, at that point, I don't see any reason to deny them entrance.
Many here show their ignorance about military life and how the military works thus making their opinions invalid. "Individual" goes out the window.
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