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Old 07-30-2017, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Houston
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. Plus anyone that knows what they're doing or just plain crazy can turn anything into a deadly weapon.


Yes, I saw a kung fu movie where an Asian guy killed a man with a drinking straw.
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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You'd be surprised how much trouble you'll get from small people under NORMAL conditions. Combine that with a mental illness that make's you go berserk and you have yourself a problem. Plus anyone that knows what they're doing or just plain crazy can turn anything into a deadly weapon.
Unarmed Psychiatric Nurses deal with such situations on a daily basis, as do prison officers.

What the police do in most countroes is to generally try to calm the situation, keep your distance if necessary and call for support and an ambulance. The police then use retraint techniques, and the ambulance staff can administer sedatives, before taking the person to a secure mental health facility.

It's quite common for the police to have to deal with severally disturbed and mentally ill people.

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Maybe that's because they have a smaller population and they have more cops per ratio than we do. Also they didn't compare the EU as a whole to the US as they are more similar in size, population, and variety in laws.
I think many of the issues were raised in the article I posted.

Why do American cops kill so many compared to European cops?

It also should be noted that suicide rates in terms of the rail system have fallen here after staff were taught new techniques. So training and engaging an make a difference.

Drop in rail suicides after new Samaritans course - BBC News

15,000 rail staff trained by Samaritans in suicide prevention | Samaritans
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Unarmed Psychiatric Nurses deal with such situations on a daily basis, as do prison officers.
How often do psychriatric nurses handle people armed by themselves? Also when prison guards handle armed inmates, they tear gas the place and send in girds with riot gear and shields to handle it. Police on the streets don't have that type of equipment or time to put it on. Basically police have their own variables when dealing with people like this.

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What the police do in most countroes is to generally try to calm the situation, keep your distance if necessary and call for support and an ambulance. The police then use retraint techniques, and the ambulance staff can administer sedatives, before taking the person to a secure mental health facility.
And they do that here. However if the guy charges you or someone else, you need to end the threat now.

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It's quite common for the police to have to deal with severally disturbed and mentally ill people.
Even here in the US it doesn't always end with someone being shot.

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I think many of the issues were raised in the article I posted.

Why do American cops kill so many compared to European cops?

It also should be noted that suicide rates in terms of the rail system have fallen here after staff were taught new techniques. So training and engaging an make a difference.

Drop in rail suicides after new Samaritans course - BBC News

15,000 rail staff trained by Samaritans in suicide prevention | Samaritans
I'm not sure how does this relate to what we're talking about.
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