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Well gee, why should reps fix a liberal abortion. Liberals gave birth to that sh*! Sandwich.
Liberal should fix it. The only GOP answer should be total repeal.
They don't have the votes for total repeal.
07-09-2017, 10:18 AM
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Well gee, why should reps fix a liberal abortion. Liberals gave birth to that sh*! Sandwich.
Liberal should fix it. The only GOP answer should be total repeal.
So basically, it's your position that Republicans are not there to solve the nation's problems. They're just there to whine and obstruct and refuse to do anything productive.
That's uh, somehow more admirable than the typical right winger, who has deluded themselves into thinking that Republicans actually have any intention of doing anything good for the country.
What is there to compromise on? They're not even working toward the same goal.
One side wants people to have access to healthcare. The other wants to cut off access to healthcare and give a huge tax cut to rich people. The only disagreement among Republicans is how big the tax cut should be and how many millions should suffer for it.
No kidding.
The Rs were clear that their main policy goal was to deliver tax cuts. And their strategy was to kill two birds with one stone - get rid of the ACA and use the savings to deliver those tax cuts.
The Ds main policy goal was and is to make sure that everyone has access to health care. And their strategy was to make sure that most people could afford to buy decent private health insurance. Which, BTW, is how a number of nations do it, Ds did not invent this idea.
Funny thing, it turns out most voters, including a substantial number of R voters, care about their own ability to see a doctor when they need one, and are not too worried about tax cuts for rich people. Who'da thunk?
Doctors provide health care, politicians concoct payment schemes in order to purchase votes.
Repeal along with a complete seperation of govt and health care.
The libertarian dream; "Doctors" providing "health care". In other words, there are no regulatory agencies or requirements that ensure your "doctor" wasn't a South Appalachian State School of Medicine and Air Conditioner Repair dropout, your "medication" isn't actually a hardened mixture of whatever the manufacturer salvaged from an industrial processing plant chemical stockpile, your "surgery" wasn't just you sedated while the "medical" staff ran errands for three hours, and the monopoly of self-proclaimed doctors, health-care facilities, medical device manufacturers, and pharmaceutical companies have you scheduling a dozen "surgeries", popping 20 different "medications", and lugging around an "oxygen" tank for a dislocated toe while charging you greater than the combined assets of your next three generations.
It's kind of funny to me that Republicans control every level of government and can't manage to come up with a single workable plan to replace the one they railed against for years. And then, when it's clear they have nothing to offer and can't get anything done, and a few of them try to get Democrats to help them, we see people like yourself calling the left "loony", the same left that actually did manage to pass a healthcare bill without all levels of government under its belt. Incredible stuff.
In fairness, the poster did not call the Left 'loony'---they called the EXTREME Left loony---and who can really argue that?
On CBS News’ “Face the Nation” Sunday morning, Arizona Senator John McCain said the Senate’s health care bill was “probably going to be dead” when Congress returns Monday from the July Fourth recess.
"The July 4 recess hasn't worked out in the Republicans' favor. More GOP senators have come out against the bill, either saying they will vote against it or that they have increasing concerns about how it will affect their constituents
Republican senators who have potentially defected over the recess, withholding their explicit support: John Hoeven of North Dakota, Chuck Grassley of Iowa, John Boozman of Arkansas, and Bob Corker of Tennessee, whose office told Axios, "He will take a position on the bill when the legislative text is finalized and he has a chance to fully review it."
These senators see the devestation that the gutting of Medicaid in this bill would have in their states. Add Senators Collins and Murkowski to that list and this POS is dead in the water.
Looks like the GOP is going to be forced to work with the Democrats.
It's kind of funny to me that Republicans control every level of government and can't manage to come up with a single workable plan to replace the one they railed against for years. And then, when it's clear they have nothing to offer and can't get anything done, and a few of them try to get Democrats to help them, we see people like yourself calling the left "loony", the same left that actually did manage to pass a healthcare bill without all levels of government under its belt. Incredible stuff.
The simple reality is that they can't come up with an alternative because the ACA is their bill. They have only railed against it since Obama was elected. The framework was pushed as long ago as the Nixon administration. It was embellished and promoted by Republicans in the Clinton admin as an alternative to big government medicine that they saw in Hillarycare. They were behind it up until Obama was elected and then the priority shifted to opposing anything that Obama was in favor of. It was the conservative approach to government involvement in medicine that would preserve the concept of personal responsibility (mandate) and private insurance markets. It was stopgap and minimal, but once it was enacted it was going to be impossible to turn back. I
Universal basic coverage solves SO many things. It does NOT have to be no copays and deductibles. 2500 a year a person and 5000 a family would cost less and act as gatekeepers to going to the doc when you just have a cold. The disincentive to hire lesser skilled people full time largely disappears. Almost noone goes bankrupt. Combine this with price transparency requirements and back billing disappears. Disallow exclusives on out of patent medicines.
The GOP is learning that actually accomplishing something is much more difficult than just criticizing the democrats.
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