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View Poll Results: Did Trump and company collude with an enemy of the USA to win the presidency?
Yes 213 59.83%
No 143 40.17%
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Old 07-11-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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Russia is our competitor. One of our competitors for resources and influence in the world. They certainly were willing to do many things in order to get Trump elected. Even engage in a conspiracy. Your knee-jerk defense isn't rational.
We compete with them in certain areas. That does not make them our enemy or one that we should threaten to shoot down their planes in places they has as much right if not more to be in.

 
Old 07-11-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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Because Clapper wasn't working with a foreign govenrmnet against the U.S.? I dunno - Why don't you educate us?
Nothing was done against the U.S. government here. Whoever exposed Hillary's corruption did the country a favor.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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It's safe to now conclude that Trump did not win legitimately, he was actively helped by a foreign enemy, and Clinton is the rightful President.

Sadly, the founders never anticipated anything like this and didn't put methods in to fix it.
hope Hillary runs again in 2020 so she can get her rightful win
 
Old 07-11-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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Russia is our enemy, unless we are Communists or want to become Communists..
The 1960's are looking for you. Do you still dive under a desk when it thunders out?
 
Old 07-11-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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We compete with them in certain areas. That does not make them our enemy or one that we should threaten to shoot down their planes in places they has as much right if not more to be in.
Do you believe offering up dirt on a political opponent was a benign gesture by the Russians?
 
Old 07-11-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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I hope Trump supporters don't do what Clinton supporters did, and pretend that their candidate was not every bit as disgusting and purely self-serving as the other one.

I'm glad the nature of American and world politics is being revealed for everyone to see. It is a network of Oligarchs carving up the world between themselves. Every one else gets debt.
Yes, where is the alternative? More and more of us are no longer going to settle for the "lesser evil" especially when that is not even clear.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 10:38 AM
 
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Do you believe offering up dirt on a political opponent was a benign gesture by the Russians?
I don't believe they did it and I've stated over and over that even if they did I surely understand why they would want to take the knees out from under someone that was starting wars in their backyard and threatening to shoot down their planes.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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I don't believe they did it and I've stated over and over that even if they did I surely understand why they would want to take the knees out from under someone that was starting wars in their backyard and threatening to shoot down their planes.
So you think the Trump, Junior emails, that Junior himself just released, are not authentic?
 
Old 07-11-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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Trump said it best

https://youtu.be/rMmiLWDpCno
 
Old 07-11-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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Why is he meeting to discuss adoption policy as he claims, June 2016. He was an expert in that area and this had nothing to do with gaining information on Clinton, not very credible.
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