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Old 07-10-2017, 01:38 AM
 
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Massive fail. Your conclusions are all wrong.

Estimates indicate that the MIS 11 high sea stand likely was at least + 9 m (relative to present sea level) and could have been as high as + 24 m. The most conservative estimates of palaeo-sea level during MIS 11 would require an ice mass loss equivalent to all of the modern Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets; the more extreme estimates would require additional ice mass loss from the East Antarctic ice sheet.

Uranium-series ages of corals, sea level history, and palaeozoogeography, Canary Islands, Spain: An exploratory study for two Quaternary interglacial periods - ScienceDirect

MIS 11 is the Inter-Glacial Period prior to the last Inter-Glacial Period. I've already posted ad nauseum data (which apparently frightens global warming supporters to death judging from the number of complaints they report) about the last Inter-Glacial Period:

The NEEM paradox has emerged from an estimated large local warming above the preindustrial level (7.5 ± 1.8 °C at the deposition site 126 kyr ago without correction for any overall ice sheet altitude changes between the LIG and the preindustrial period) based on water isotopes, together with limited local ice thinning, suggesting more resilience of the real Greenland ice sheet than shown in some ice sheet models.

CP - Abstract - How warm was Greenland during the last interglacial period?

7.5°C corresponds to 13.5°F warmer.

Note that the pre-industrial period is pegged at 13.8°C or 56.8°F, so add 56.8°F + 13.5°F = 70.3°F.

The current average global temperature is 58.3°F

Since the two previous Inter-Glacial Periods were at least 10.4°F warmer than present, the only thing you can conclude is the Great Barrier Reef dies during every Inter-Glacial Period, then renews itself.
Typical climate change denial propaganda. Changes in the last century that scientists have conclusively linked to human pollution are to be ignored due to conditions millions of years ago.

What baloney. There is no attempt to explain what has changed in the past century to recreate these adverse environmental conditions.

We are facing in just a few centuries a level of extinction of fauna and flora not seen during human existence, and we're supposed to just accept it.

I truly wonder if these climate change deniers are paid trolls. Some Republicans use the same flawed logic in continuing to promote their Super Pac-backed political agenda.
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Old 07-10-2017, 01:50 AM
 
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Do your homework. I previously pointed out that they have introduced bills to reduce legal immigration and get rid of illegal immigration.

Once again, Harry Reid either killed many house bills or refused to bring them up for a vote

You've got it so very, very wrong. Neither party is looking out for Americans. At one time, democrats truly looked out for the poor, working and middle classes. Those democrats of yore would have been horrified to discover that their constituents were either seeing their wages depressed or were being displaced in the work force due to illegal immigration. Those dems of yore would have done something about it---and I don't mean amnesty either. At one time I was a staunch democrat because I knew that dems were looking out for their constituents. Somewhere along the line the dems lost their way---and lost me, too. And, no, I don't belong to the RNC. When the RNC called us after the 2012 election and asked us to join, I gave them an earful as to why I don't want to join them.

It's you who is "drinking snake oil" if you really believe the dems are looking out for Americans. In fact, they have to be laughing themselves sick thinking about how many of their supporters don't realize that dems are putting illegals first and foremost.
Harry Reid hasn't controlled the Senate in over two years.

Please post the immigration reform bills passed by House Republicans, who have controlled the House for over six years.

Good luck, because there has been no such bill passed by the House Republicans in the last two Congresses.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bil...migration/6206

You're not only drinking the snake oil, you're selling it.
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Old 07-10-2017, 02:12 AM
 
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Harry Reid hasn't controlled the Senate in over two years.

Please post the immigration reform bills passed by House Republicans, who have controlled the House for over six years.

Good luck, because there has been no such bill passed by the House Republicans in the last two Congresses.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bil...migration/6206

You're not only drinking the snake oil, you're selling it.
The republicans certainly did pass some immigration bills.





Besides, your idea of "immigration reform" amounts to amnesty.

Well...Kate's law passed the house. We'll see how that turns out in the senate. That Bill is an example of "immigration reform".

House passes Kate

And then there is this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/u...ps-urging.html
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Old 07-10-2017, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Dying planet? The planet will do just fine on it's own, it's us humans and all the species on this planet that will not survive a runaway greenhouse effect. In time, maybe millions of years, the Earth will regain balance again and life will continue without us. The planet will be just fine.
Thank you, George Carlin.
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Old 07-10-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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The republicans certainly did pass some immigration bills.





Besides, your idea of "immigration reform" amounts to amnesty.

Well...Kate's law passed the house. We'll see how that turns out in the senate. That Bill is an example of "immigration reform".

House passes Kate

And then there is this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/u...ps-urging.html
These are NOT comprehensive immigration reform bills. When the House Republicans blocked the comprehensive immigration bill passed by the Senate over two years ago, they promised an improved comprehensive immigration bill. This bill still has not been delivered -- another empty, snake oil promise.
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Old 07-10-2017, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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Talk about alarmist BS. There is no way the Great Barrier reef is more than 25,000 years old, certainly not 25 million.
25,000 years ago sea level was -120 meters relative to today. That would make the Great Barrier Reef into the Great Barrier Sand Dune. 25 million years ago Australia as such probably didn't even exist.
From NASA:
https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/b...itz_09/slr.jpg
If this is accurate, then this whole controversy is hilarious (& contrived).

(I was wondering about a 25 million y/o living thing?)

Since living things eventually die.....it makes sense that the Great Barrier Sand Dune (when water rose) became the Great Barrier Reef (which is alive & will eventually die) and will probably become the Great Barrier Island(s) that will be 100s of miles long.....in a Tropical Paradise.....with a few thousand hotels.

& if the globe rises in Temps over the next couple of hundred million years....Oceans will rise and it will revert BACK to being the Great Barrier Sand Bar (or reef) again. (rinse & repeat)

We really need to send a few trillion dollars to those nice anti-climate change people (who are mathematic & economic geniuses) to prevent that tropical paradise from being created.....or not.

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Old 07-10-2017, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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These are NOT comprehensive immigration reform bills. When the House Republicans blocked the comprehensive immigration bill passed by the Senate over two years ago, they promised an improved comprehensive immigration bill. This bill still has not been delivered -- another empty, snake oil promise.
if it has amnesty in it then its NOT a immigration reform bill


why is it the fascist liberals constantly want to reward an illegal action....
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Old 07-10-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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if it has amnesty in it then its NOT a immigration reform bill


why is it the fascist liberals constantly want to reward an illegal action....
Thank you!

Liberals think they're fooling others when they talk about "comprehensive immigration reform". Most of us know that it is just a euphemism for amnesty.

What this country needs to do is enforce the laws that are already on the books. In other words, deport illegals.

True "comprehensive immigration reform" consists of reducing the annual number of legal immigrants in this country plus barring people from countries that are hostile to us from immigrating here.
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Old 07-10-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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It is not dead.
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Old 07-10-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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Typical science denier rant ignoring empirical evidence:

<<
Australia's iconic Great Barrier Reef is likely doomed without immediate action on climate change, according toa major study published yesterday in the journal Nature.
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Coral reef managers have long focused on protecting the diverse marine ecosystems by trying to boost water quality and restricting fishing on reefs in order to build their resilience.

The new study— assembled by a cadre of highly respected coral reef researchers from Australia, the United Kingdom and the United States — finds those efforts were no match for the massive coral bleaching that began in 2015 and continued through last year.


"This event was just so overwhelming that any increased resistance was negligible compared to the amount of stress," said Mark Eakin, coordinator of the Coral Reef Watch program at the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration and a co*author on the paper.


The authors conducted a detailed assessment of three major bleaching events that hit the Great Barrier Reef in 1998, 2002 and 2016. To map the impact of the 2016 event, aerial surveys and underwater measurements were taken, and the results showed extreme ocean temperatures are the main driver of mass bleaching.


"The really scary thing is that this paper just came out just as another bleaching event is happening on the
Great Barrier Reef," Eakin said.


Last week, the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority, Australia's lead management agency for the almost 1,500*mile*long UNESCO World Heritage site, confirmed the mass coral bleaching is occurring yet again.>>

https://coralreefwatch.noaa.gov/blea...316_ee_gbr.pdf

Actual empirical evidence:

Reef health - GBRMPA

And the destruction continues:

<<
Dr Neal Cantin from the Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS) said the recurrence of widespread coral bleaching in back-to-back summers indicated there was not enough time between last year’s extreme heat event for the corals to fully recover.
“We are seeing a decrease in the stress tolerance of these corals,” Dr Cantin said. “This is the first time the Great Barrier Reef has not had a few years between bleaching events to recover.
“Many coral species appear to be more susceptible to bleaching after more than 12 months of sustained above-average ocean temperatures.”>>


Second wave of mass bleaching unfolding on Great Barrier Reef - GBRMPA
You go ahead and do your "immediate action". I got plastic to burn.
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