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Not Jewish people or people in occupied territories...
True.....meh. They considered Jews to be enemies of the state and occupied territories I am sure were an odd thing...they obviously would have had their own laws before being captured by Germany and I doubt the first thing the Germans thought of was gun rights in those areas.
True.....meh. They considered Jews to be enemies of the state and occupied territories I am sure were an odd thing...they obviously would have had their own laws before being captured by Germany and I doubt the first thing the Germans thought of was gun rights in those areas.
Let a liberal bent on gun bans and such... we will be enemies of the state.
Nope. Let them have their chit hole cities and pass their tomfoolery there.
I'm done compromising rights.
I'm more than willing to help organize to get the NFA repealed at a national level.
Get suppressors and machine guns back into production. No ifs. Ands. Or buts about it.
Never again shall I ever live in another BS state like NY ever again. Nope. Done. Compromising is over. You had you're little social expirament since the NFA was produced. Gun laws don't work.
Nope. This truth, Hitler did it. Stalin Did it Mao Did it Pol Pot did it. Venezuela did it.
Watch every evil regime come to power over history.
First thing to go are weapons. Specifically guns. Starts as a regulation, for the children of course... then total ban.
I think we need to realize that these scenarios are the products of over-active imaginations, and they have been fed to people by fear-mongers (for their own purposes), don't let them get to you.
In the mean time, people are still going to work every Monday morning, drinking their coffee and reading the sports section. No one is planning to do battle.
Being vocal about issues one is passionate about is part of what an open society is all about. In fact that's what this forum is for. People discuss the issues of the day and if they are motivated enough, they show up at the polls on election day. No one is sharpening pitchforks ...
Our society is going to be just fine, it is time we appreciate it.
I think we need to realize that these scenarios are the products of over-active imaginations, and they have been fed to people by fear-mongers (for their own purposes), don't let them get to you.
In the mean time, people are still going to work every Monday morning, drinking their coffee and reading the sports section. No one is planning to do battle.
Being vocal about issues one is passionate about is part of what an open society is all about. In fact that's what this forum is for. People discuss the issues of the day and if they are motivated enough, they show up at the polls on election day. No one is sharpening pitchforks ...
Our society is going to be just fine, it is time we appreciate it.
Not going to change my mind.
I lived in NY where my rifles and thier magazines became illegal over night. Making me a felon if I didn't register them. Lost in a tragic boating accident. Current swept them down to Florida
Nope. It's not fear mongering, that's the truth about history, an inconvenient one for anti gunners.
The left has had their social expirament with regulating arms. It hasn't stopped a single thing. Why I should be punished for what some thugs in Chicago or some loon elsewhere does, not going to happen.
Lordy, I've been following this mess of yours for the past two years at least. What can I say, it's been deja vu all over. Plenty of deja vues. It brought me back to my ex country, ex Yugoslavia, all the way back to the late 80s.
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Do you want to know what comes next? Or do you REALLY want to know what comes next?
I think your observations are very good ones and it is true that political tensions are deep and seemingly irreconcilable. However, in the U.S., there is no method for the states to break up into smaller nations. The Civil War determined, once and for all, that states cannot leave the U.S.
Even if hostilities were to break out between political factions, the police, the National Guard and ultimately the US military would put an end to it. The fundamental idea that the U.S. is indivisible runs very deep.
I honestly don't understand why the Right thinks protests equal the deterioration of society. Other developed nations have major protests all the time, and sometimes they turn violent. Only the authoritarian right thinks protesters should be stopped.
Except, "protests" is used nowadays as a term to replace what just fifteen or twenty years ago would have been called riots.
From Webster's : "2b*:* A violent public disorder; specifically*:* a tumultuous disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons assembled together and acting with a common intent". Take note-"violent".
Seems pretty authoritative for protesters of a certain progressive nature to want to shut down opposing views and silence people and organizations that represent differing viewpoints, especially for young people that would be at an advantage to learn different points of view so that they have a better opportunity for making up their own mind.
So, please explain to CD why we should normalize riotous behavior as acceptable?
I think your observations are very good ones and it is true that political tensions are deep and seemingly irreconcilable. However, in the U.S., there is no method for the states to break up into smaller nations. The Civil War determined, once and for all, that states cannot leave the U.S.
Even if hostilities were to break out between political factions, the police, the National Guard and ultimately the US military would put an end to it. The fundamental idea that the U.S. is indivisible runs very deep.
Demographic change runs even deeper.
Back to Balkans again to get one more example: Kosovo was part of Serbia since the Middle Ages. In 2008, it became a separate country. This would have been absolutely impossible without a massive and uncontrolled demographic change which had been going on for decades before. US intervention was just the icing on the cake. With it or without it, it was just a matter of time. Even without a separate country status, that territory was already lost to Serbia anyway.
Police, National Guard, US military - demography runs through them, too. How people become tribal when the proverbial hits the fan - you would be surprised.
Its no longer of IF we want it,Its now WHEN will it happen. If you have paid attention you see how the left acts when they lose an election,I am glad they acted violent because FINALLY the right,Alt Right,Nationalists etc are stopping with using kid gloves and are fighting back against the left and their soldiers. So since it IS coming,I am looking forward to it...right now its just boiling and boiling but hasn't exploded yet. But hey we got 3.5 more years AT LEAST of President Trump so who knows what will happen.
Are you sure you know what you're looking forward to? We're talking war on your own territory here. Even if you were a soldier, and have gone through hell in Iraq or Afganistan, even then, you always knew your family was home and your home was safe. Even if you were aware of the possibility you'd be injured or not survive at all, you knew your family would be taken care of by the government. How about a situation in which there's a civil war raging, your home is not safe any more and a government fell apart where you live.
I know some of these things are very difficult to imagine, but if you are playing "bring it on" game, you should give it some thought. Actually you should go into details - how does your day look like? Where can you go, and where can't you go? Can you get food for your family? Is there water and electricity? Are all your neighbours still alive? Can you leave your city at all? Things like that.
I honestly don't understand why the Right thinks protests equal the deterioration of society. Other developed nations have major protests all the time, and sometimes they turn violent. Only the authoritarian right thinks protesters should be stopped.
We have never seen the kind of violence at tea party of pro-Trump rallies like what we saw at every G20 summit (not just this one) or what we saw in Ferguson and Baltimore or in LA in 1992. Or the massive riots in the Paris suburbs a few years back by the Muslim immigrants. Or even the violence at the Occupy Wall Street rallies and the violence against veterans during the Vietnam War protests. When Trump supporters have become violent it is when a liberal protester infiltrated the even to cause trouble, while Trump supporters have been attacked just walking down the street for wearing a Trump shirt. Remember when the Democrat black youths attacked the mentally handicapped white teen in Chicago and shouted "F_____ Trump?"
And the liberal media is partly to blame for fanning anger against police and contributing to the attacks against police in Dallas and Baton Rouge. Their reporting assumes the police are guilty though its already been established the police did not act wrongly in the majority of the cases. Its now clear that the police were justified in killing Michael Brown and Alton Sterling and that there was no ill intent in regards to what happened with Freddie Gray. While not a police case, Trayvon Martin also caused his own death by picking a fight with George Zimmerman and attacking him violently and trying to kill him.
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, I've been following this mess of yours for the past two years at least. What can I say, it's been deja vu all over. Plenty of deja vues. It brought me back to my ex country, ex Yugoslavia, all the way back to the late 80s.
