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Can people on the left please explain why government run health care is the ONLY solution for the USA?
It's due to their control freak mentality.
The Liberals cannot do something as simple as expand Medicare to include everyone and leave it at that. No, they have to take over the hospitals and lord over the doctors and other services providers and meddle in all things medical.
and do not tell me "because other countries do it".
I don't think it necessarily is. But it's better than the free market solution.
EDIT: And, I don't necessarily view it as "government run." It's subsidized to the point where profit motive is no longer causing people to not get covered.
The Liberals cannot do something as simple as expand Medicare to include everyone and leave it at that. No, they have to take over the hospitals and lord over the doctors and other services providers and meddle in all things medical.
ok -let's expand Medicare to all, today. Since you seem to be ok with that, I would be too. Let's do it since liberals are asking for "freak mentality" stuff let's settle on simply Medicare for all.. Done.
BTW- I would consider "freak mentality" being the only industrialized nation in the world without univral healthcare is more so the "freak mentality" or perhaps you prefer that our healthcare should align itself more with Turkey than literally any other industrialized nation in the world.
The "people on the left" tried a Republican plan--one concieved of in a Conservative think tank and successfully implemented by a Republican governor. But people on the right rejected their own plan once it was taken up by the left.
Because other people will pay for it... that's the left's mantra... OTHER people pay for me...
Guess again. I advocate 7% FICA style tax to replace current health insurance which IIRC runs 9% on the employer average. 7% by the employee also. WITH 2500/5000 OOP deductibles. It pays the first 200 dollars for a checkup and all money past 2700. Get gap insurance if you want it. Noone goes bankrupt or at least almost noone.
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Originally Posted by Mircea
It's due to their control freak mentality.
The Liberals cannot do something as simple as expand Medicare to include everyone and leave it at that. No, they have to take over the hospitals and lord over the doctors and other services providers and meddle in all things medical.
So you would be against the following? I advocate the following rules.
1) Transparency and simplification of billing. IE a general hospital room price shall be published and include all of the saline, needles and all the $4 Walmart drugs/Tylenol you can consume, TV, bed and one parking spot. This leaves a relatively narrow range of add ons for most hospital stays.
2) No more out of network docs or services in in-network hospitals. I paid $1300 or $1400 for a doc my wife never saw because we arrived 15 mins before shift change. Im convinced he just harvested all names that came in that night.
3) No more exclusives for out of patent medicines. IE the Shkreli effect.
4) The govt CAN negotiate drug prices. Further, no lobbying allowed in medicine. Everything shall be in public hearings. Actually no lobbying period.
5) No more reformulate, pull old drug, re-patent
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