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It is a crime to obstruct justice; it is a crime to interfere with elections. THATs the issue. Stop dreaming about what Hillary of Obama did....reality is what reality is. trump campaign worked with Russia to win the election.
No evidence. The American people voted for Trump .. no russian collusion or interference on the vote count.
Red blooded Americans pulled the lever.. President Trump won..American people won!
there. Trump explains it in a way that we should all be able to understand, while thinking quickly on his feet no less. If you can't accept Junior's rationale that he was conducting Opposition Research, can't you at least get on board with the notion that it was Research Into Your Opponent...even?
sometimes you just have to communicate to the level of your audience is all
Businesses also do opposition research (competition research). It is an essential tool in Marketing as well as politics. It is not illegal.
When Obama was running for president, they asked him, give us every bad thing or controversial thing you did in your past. The people who can hurt you. What did you do. Think of anything anyone can come forward and talk to the media about you. This is what they do.. damage control or remove that person.. kill them off if need be.. politics can be very dirty and everything is on the table. Democrats are much more likely to clean house by dirty means than Republicans.. the Republicans like to stay clear of wrong doing. Democrats are the cover up kings of politics.
The liberal media is dirty also.. spin, a positive is always turned into a negative by the liberal media if a Republican is in office.Extreme wording , bombshell, collusion.. etc... The opposite happens , the spin a negative into a positive when Obama was in office. Nothing harsh is said . The incite vocabulary words can't be found.
I suppose you didn't see where it specifically says "or other thing of value". Is your stance that opposition research is of no value? That would be news to several businesses whose sole income is providing opposition research to various campaigns. As per Jr.'s e-mails, going into the meeting they thought they were going to get something of value and specifically something of value from a foreign governmental source. Seems to me that thinking they took a meeting with persons they thought were Russian officials offering Russian governmental documentation of dirt about Hillary is a big "nothingburger", is the irrational thought process here.
It's not my stance. I'm not a lawyer. It is the stance of the lawyers discussing this on CNN.
But you have to understand, government cannot make law that restricts your civil rights to free speech and association. This is not to say, they don't try, or twist existing law to do it.
I know why it is so difficult to spring someone out of a cult. You can present them with black and white laws(facts), you present them with e-mails from a principle(facts removing any doubt about the intent of the sender), you present them with facts of two known other people from the Trump campaign joining with the e-mail sender and taking a meeting expecting to get something of value from a foreign government, and they simply refuse to acknowledge the plane facts right in front of their faces. And yet they wonder why people call them a cult. They constantly return to their mantra of; but, but Hillary, but but Obama, but but democrats, but but liberals, as if the wrongs of others excuse the wrongs of the Trump campaign.
Government can control currency. They cannot control anyones words that leave their mouth.
According to you, once one becomes President, they give up all their civil rights.
No one loses their 1st, 4th & 5th Amendment rights. Government cannot take them and certainly not you based upon your hurt feelings.
Why not respond to the idea that things other than "currency" have value? that was your initial argument, that only cash money is "currency", and it looks like you've been... debunked on it.
So, quote where I said that "once one becomes president, they give up all their civil rights." Waiting....
What's that sound? Crickets?
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I know why it is so difficult to spring someone out of a cult. You can present them with black and white laws(facts), you present them with e-mails from a principle(facts removing any doubt about the intent of the sender), you present them with facts of two known other people from the Trump campaign joining with the e-mail sender and taking a meeting expecting to get something of value from a foreign government, and they simply refuse to acknowledge the plane facts right in front of their faces. And yet they wonder why people call them a cult. They constantly return to their mantra of; but, but Hillary, but but Obama, but but democrats, but but liberals, as if the wrongs of others excuse the wrongs of the Trump campaign.
Not only that as an excuse for the trump behavior, they seem to believe that the wrongful trump behavior is a direct result of whatever things someone in the past did wrong. And, they celebrate it, too.
If you know more than most, you should be especially concerned if this turns out to be true. Don't you want to know the truth, one way or the other?
Of course, but don't sit here and ***** when your side did it years ago, then ***** now because you don't like it....
Is the left really this damn hard headed? When the right brings up hillary, obama, or clinton....well that's old news, that's not now.......but, the left can go back and find pictures 40+ years ago and say see, see, see.....
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