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Old 07-15-2017, 06:47 PM
 
Location: FL
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This isn't a "Muslim Ban," liar! Of course you know that. You just use that term because it suits your "narrative."

You and your friends deserve all these so-called "refugees" to be "resettled" in your own communities. You want them; you should pay the price and "foot the bill." Good luck.
Trump called it a Muslim Ban and now he has changed it to a Travel Ban when he learned it got squashed for calling it a Muslim Ban. His 90 days have passed. You already knew that.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:08 PM
 
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Why should all these far relationships be included. What about the burden for the US of letting elderly people who don't speak the language and are more costly to our society! Let them be helped in neighboring countries where they speak the same language.
Interesting that grandparents weren't allowed, considering that the refugees are from places where multi-generational families are common. Yeah, if Americans were refugees, I could see not allowing grandparents, so it isn't that hard to understand why trump's people would think they were... too distant... as relatives.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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I think it sad that we will help foreigners before our own.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:10 PM
 
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This isn't a "Muslim Ban," liar! Of course you know that. You just use that term because it suits your "narrative."

You and your friends deserve all these so-called "refugees" to be "resettled" in your own communities. You want them; you should pay the price and "foot the bill." Good luck.
Oh, bless your heart... trump has never, ever, used the term "muslim ban" to describe it. Right?
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:12 PM
 
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That judge took a SCOTUS ruling and wildly interpreted it.

The administration filed a brief and even though SCOTUS is in recess that can still issue a ruling.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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I think it sad that we will help foreigners before our own.
Same here, we should put an end to all immigration until we have jobs for all of our people and care for all of our veterans, meanwhile in Europe they are finding migrants with tuberculosis that does not respond to any treatments.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The majority of African Americans have ancestors in this country longer than the majority of European Americans. That is exactly what he said.
True statement.
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:18 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Same here, we should put an end to all immigration until we have jobs for all of our people and care for all of our veterans, meanwhile in Europe they are finding migrants with tuberculosis that does not respond to any treatments.
I disagree. Our immigration should focus on what the nation needs and not social engineering and charity.
We need doctors and nurses, engineers etc.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:56 PM
 
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I don't see why Trump can not just ignore the ruling and say its an issue for the SCOTUS since the ban was allowed, and put in place. He should leave it to the Court for October, and have the Justice Department issue orders to ignore the new rules.
I disagree about President Trump "ignore the ruling" ..... that's what Obama did, he just ignored the Court rulings he disagreed with.

President Trump's Administration filed a Motion with the US Supreme Court to ask for a ruling on the Activist Judge in Hawaii ..... one of Obama's former classmates. AG Sessions filed directly with the US Supreme Court, by-passing the 9th Circuit Court.

In a court filing on Friday, the administration asked the justices to overturn Thursday’s decision by a U.S. district judge in Hawaii, which limited the scope of the administration’s temporary ban on refugees and travelers from six Muslim-majority countries.

We either have the Rule of Law and follow the Constitution in this Country -OR, we have no Country.
Obama didn't believe in the Constitution, President Trump does. Follow the Laws, abide by the Courts.

Supreme Court gives Hawaii until Tuesday to answer Trump travel ban motion |Reuters - July 15, 2017

The Supreme Court's ruling exempted a large swath of refugees and travelers with a "bona fide relationship" with a person or an entity in the U.S. The justices did not define those relationships but said they could include a close relative, a job offer or admission to a college or university.

The Trump administration defined the relationships as people who had a parent, spouse, fiance, son, daughter, son-in-law, daughter-in-law or sibling already in the U.S.

Watson enlarged that group to include grandparents, grandchildren, brothers-in-law, sisters-in-law, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews and cousins.

These Activists Judges should be properly removed from the Bench - this particular Judge doesn't believe in Immigration Laws - Laws that were duly Voted and Passed by the US Congress and signed into LAW by former US Presidents. He doesn't even believe in the authority of the US Supreme Court.
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:29 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Trump called it a Muslim Ban and now he has changed it to a Travel Ban when he learned it got squashed for calling it a Muslim Ban. His 90 days have passed. You already knew that.
No, President Trump did not. When he issued the Order, he never even mentioned "Muslim" or
Islam" and neither does the Order itself. What's said on the campaign trail is rhetoric, not policy. You people whine every time Hillary's statements are brought up, but treat Trump differently.

It wasn't "his 90 days," and the 90 days starts when the travel ban becomes effective, which has been just recently. That the first Order was issued many months ago is irrelevant.

The Democrat Party today is Freedom's worst enemy. You don't care who comes across our borders. You don't care what their background is; in fact, you don't even want to ask. If this keeps up, and we don't get control of our immigration policy, we're going to be looking just like Germany in a few years. There is no requirement in the Constitution that we accept "refugees." No one has a right to our generosity and our kindness. The right to the largesse of the American people does not belong to foreigners. And it certainly does not belong to a class of people who wish to come here, not to become Americans, but to do us harm. And lastly, some rogue judge does not have the authority to overturn (usurp) the President's Constitutional Order, nor the Supreme Court's decision. Let that sink in.

Quit forming your opinions from "The View," "The Rachel Madcow Show" (clown show), "Morning Joke," and CNN (Anderson Pooper, Wolfman Blitzer, et al.).

Your knowledge of our system of government is lacking. The Judicial Branch was the Branch most feared by our Framers, and that's why it was purposely made the branch with the least power (they are not three "co-equal" branches).

Thomas Jefferson stated: "The greatest object of my fear is the Federal Judiciary." This case is exactly what he was talking about.

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