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A river separates the US and Mexico. A very long, twisty, winding river. The border is in the middle of the river. Is the US going to give up its half or take Mexico's half. A lot of different people own the land along the river. Not even the Federal government can just take peoples land with out a legal process that can take years. Much of the border is in extremely remote and difficult terrain. If you are not familiar with the western landscape, there are places you can see across canyons that will take you hours to get to. The logistics of construction would be a nightmare. A wall only slows access. With out manpower to man a wall and respond to attempted breaches, it is useless. All that manpower has to have quick access, supplies, equipment, power, sanitation and so on. The cost of the wall does not stop when it is built. It would cost tens, if not hundreds of millions to maintain on an annual basis.
The whole idea is ludicrous to begin with. Pretty much like Trump himself.
Yes, we would be better off with strong border control and e-verify. Deport the illegals and only bother with some different sort of barrier like fences in certain areas, not a wall. Why on earth did Trump ever say such a stupid thing? He's finally admitting what everyone else already knew--that it's physically impossible to build a wall over water and rough terrain and on other people's land. There are other means of controlling our borders.
A river separates the US and Mexico. A very long, twisty, winding river. The border is in the middle of the river. Is the US going to give up its half or take Mexico's half. A lot of different people own the land along the river. Not even the Federal government can just take peoples land with out a legal process that can take years. Much of the border is in extremely remote and difficult terrain. If you are not familiar with the western landscape, there are places you can see across canyons that will take you hours to get to. The logistics of construction would be a nightmare. A wall only slows access. With out manpower to man a wall and respond to attempted breaches, it is useless. All that manpower has to have quick access, supplies, equipment, power, sanitation and so on. The cost of the wall does not stop when it is built. It would cost tens, if not hundreds of millions to maintain on an annual basis.
The whole idea is ludicrous to begin with. Pretty much like Trump himself.
Oh, here we go again! Trump has already received bids on building it and prototypes are going to be built. It only needs to be built on the 700 miles of the most porous areas of the border and has already been approved by congress back in 2006. There won't be any wall on rivers and other unpassible areas as they are already natural barriers to illegal entry. The Border Patrol can take care of those areas. No matter what the cost of the wall it won't exceed the $113 billion a year that illegals cost us.
I suggest you stop drooling all over your keyboard because the wall will be built where it is necessary and feasible. Nothing ludicrous about it or Trump.
Yes, we would be better off with strong border control and e-verify. Deport the illegals and only bother with some different sort of barrier like fences in certain areas, not a wall. Why on earth did Trump ever say such a stupid thing? He's finally admitting what everyone else already knew--that it's physically impossible to build a wall over water and rough terrain and on other people's land. There are other means of controlling our borders.
He said where it is feasible and necessary the wall and fences will be built. There is no other way that our border can be secured other than physical barriers, the Border Patrol and high tech equipment. Better to stop them at the border than to allow them to get in here where they are much harder to weed out and more expensive to do so. By the way, criminals and terrorists aren't looking for jobs.
Are you suggesting that the party that holds both houses of Congress and the White House are too weak and inept to get anything passed?
Yeah, I would agree. The GOP is pretty embarrassing right now.
Indeed. All they have left is the blame Obama/Hilary/Dems/the weather card. The GOP certainly can't take responsibility themselves, because then they would look INCOMPETENT.
even if it never get completed, any mile that we can get would be better than what we have. If mexico can have a wall/fence on their border, why cant we
I disagree. If there are risks they will be less likely to take them. Sorry, but I'm pro-life and anti-abortion but I still don't think that the taxpayer should have to pay for their irresponsible breeding either. Let charities take care of all of the above then, not the taxpayer.
Abortions were common when they were illegal. I was in high school in the 60's and a lot of girls got abortions. The wealthy girls parent's arranged a 'procedure' with a friendly doctor which would be noted in the official record as a D&C, not an abortion. The poor girls resorted to things like having their boyfriend hit them in the abdomen repeatedly until they miscarried, or they would find someone who did kitchen table abortions.
Banning abortions does not reduce the demand for them anymore than the war on drugs has resulted in fewer people doing drugs
If you have any understanding of historical context of walls, or how drug running worked, you'd already know that the wall has no chance of working. Just look at what you said- there already is a fence/wall on the border, and yet it doesn't work. This is a huge waste of money to appease shallow thinkers who blame immigrants for all their personal problems and like easy-sounding solutions.
You're making assumptions of what I expect from a border wall. I want it to control who comes in and not to check points were we will actually know who is coming and going.
Even if it keeps the honest immigrants honest it's worth it. The need for a wall is not really 100% the fault of the US. If Mexico would make an attempt to control their side of it things would be better.
I actually believe the US has grounds for a declaration of war against Mexico because of how complicit their corrupt government is with the drug cartels and the way they assault our border and our people every day.
Millions of Americans die every year because of drugs funneled through Mexico with the aid of their government and untold numbers of lives are ruined every year from those drugs.
Maybe a quick, overwhelming attack on them would be cheaper than a wall. You go in, take over and root out the corruption from their government. You let the people vote in a referendum if they want to join the US as states or form a new government with US Military presence of course...maybe for a long term.
But the drugs and the illegal humans have got to stop.
even if it never get completed, any mile that we can get would be better than what we have. If mexico can have a wall/fence on their border, why cant we
If Trump was serious about stopping illegal immigration he would buck the business interests that oppose it and ask Congress to pass a mandatory nationwide e-verify law. People do not cross the border because we have great beaches, they have their own; they come here for jobs. If employers won't hire them they will stay home.
Yes, all of Trump's supporters are 100% enchanted by his lies. Entranced even. They live in their own little
world where Trump is going to send them plenty of money, Trump is going to "whiten" the demographic landscape and everybody WILL only speak English.
They attribute "successes" to Trump that even Trump hasn't claimed.
It's related to an ever increasing daily dose of right wing propaganda disguised as commentary.
They only believe what they want to listen or watch. Everything that reinforces that is good and everything that remotely contradicts that is bad.
Some people on the fringe of the left have the same issue.
The Trumpers have raised denial to a whole new level though.
You are absolutely defending the GOP and Trump here, and you have been doing so every chance you get.
I do not expect the GOP to do the right thing. They don't even pretend to. It does no good to condemn them for things like this as it is what they ran on.
When gave the chance (D) leadership voted for a wall. When gave the chance (D) leadership took us to war. When gave the chance (D) leadership ignored the corrupt bankers.
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He's finally admitting what everyone else already knew--that it's physically impossible to build a wall over water and rough terrain and on other people's land. There are other means of controlling our borders.
