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Old 07-15-2017, 07:07 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The bottom line is that no matter what ANY politician says or does, the health care system is broke -- as in out of money.
The health care system is not out of money.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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When companies have to pay employees' insurance, they are forced to pay the employees less money. It's not just some employer charity. Before bongo-care, I had the option to opt out of company-provided health coverage and keep the extra money.
Yet another racist post. Really pushing the envelope, huh?
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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I hope after this GOP attempt to get a "better" healthcare legislation forward fails, people wake up and realize the only practical alternative to solve our healthcare mess is single payer. I mean we've tried pre-heavy regulation pre-ACA (free market), post-regulation (regulated free market), and now what's left? The only one left is single payer... which every other industralized country has it except the USA. Government will need to treat healthcare as a right and take over as the primary insurer for everyone, regardless of income. As always, Americans are late to the game with progressive policies because of our irrational fear of the word "socialism".
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:10 PM
 
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It will skyrocket anyway.

Repeal it in totality.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:23 PM
 
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Since when do Republicans care what your insurance covers or doesn't cover. They will disassemble medicare soon, then medicare later. Don't put anything past these Republican snakes. It's all about the money... for them....
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:27 PM
 
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Since when do Republicans care what your insurance covers or doesn't cover. They will disassemble medicare soon, then medicare later. Don't put anything past these Republican snakes. It's all about the money... for them....
True , I had better insurance before the great lie and paid less. Now I refuse to pay for deadbeats and pay more for less coverage.

So it is about the money. The fine is cheaper and I paid nothing due to my tax credits.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:28 PM
 
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How so?
It's been covered thousands of times. We are NOT going to turn away the sick because they are poor, fantasies otherwise are just that.

Solutions that have a 0% chance are not solutions at all.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:29 PM
 
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Cruz pushes us closer to a public option, which I still support over single payer. The generally healthy working middle class can then go out into the private sector and buy the lesser coverage policy they desire. The S is bound to hit their fan more often, but that is their choice and we should not deny that.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:31 PM
 
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Jealousy is such a petty trait.
I am for a single payer, or a Universal system like Australia has. That said punishing the middle class doesn't help anyone.

Government should not be picking winners and losers, nor should government be redistributing income upward.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:33 PM
 
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The bottom line is that no matter what ANY politician says or does, the health care system is broke -- as in out of money.

Because millions of Americans are not paying their fair share?
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