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Old 07-15-2017, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Majority of Republicans Say Colleges Are Bad for America (Yes, Really)

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Old 07-15-2017, 09:11 PM
 
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Oklahoma is doing their part. They just cut college funding by 18%.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The plan of the hippies in 1960 has paid off.
Now we got Communism being practiced on college campus. Not all of them are as bad as others.

Liberty University is supposedly the most Conservative.
Even Private Universities are teaching young adults to be passive socialist.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:20 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Colleges are bad for America.
Educated people are good for America.
Different things.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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The plan of the hippies in 1960 has paid off.
Now we got Communism being practiced on college campus. Not all of them are as bad as others.

Liberty University is supposedly the most Conservative.
Even Private Universities are teaching young adults to be passive socialist.
You have a wild imagination.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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I didn't read the article and instead looked at the data directly from Pew Research.

The question was about the views (positive or negative) of various institutions and how they are impacting how things are going in the country.

Churches are viewed the most favorably overall, with 73% and 50% of Republicans and Democrats respectively saying they have a positive impact (14%(R) and 36%(D) say they are negatively effecting the country).

Colleges and universities are actually viewed the second most favorably overall, with 36% (R) and 75% (D) saying they are having a positive impact (total favorability of colleges: 55%; churches were at 59%) and 58% (R) and 19% (D) saying they are having a negative impact.

To be clear, we don't know why people answered the way they did, and there could be a number of reasons for that. Media coverage of colleges is consistently negative, and this has an impact on how people are viewing it. Democrats tend to be more likely to be college educated than Republicans, so this is a factor. Many are also under the impression that most university professors are far left in their political affiliation. That's debatable, though studies have shown that registered Democrats far outweighs registered Republicans in university faculty, though the exact margin does very quite a bit field to field. Overall, the extent of the bias is largely exaggerated.

Most schools don't have a protest every day. Or ever. And often, these protests are not heavily populated and represent a small fraction of the student body.

I blame media perception.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:23 PM
 
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The arms race to get signalling value but not real value liberal arts degrees IS bad for America. Overall well being holds constant, but segmented into groups both college grads and non-grads end up worse off and debt levels rise. It's a form of negative-sum signalling arms race which benefits individuals but harms society, not an investment into productive value. Comment not applicable to engineering, nursing, highly competitive universities, etc.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:24 PM
 
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People criticize academia for the harmful effects of its left wing bias and promotion of identity politics, not because they oppose education itself.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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The arms race to get signalling value but not real value liberal arts degrees IS bad for America. Overall well being holds constant, but segmented into groups both college grads and non-grads end up worse off and debt levels rise. It's a form of negative-sum signalling arms race which benefits individuals but harms society, not an investment into productive value. Comment not applicable to engineering, nursing, highly competitive universities, etc.
College was turned into a jobs training program. This is what we get for not valuing intelligence as a society. We idolized the laborer and condescend the philosopher, all while expecting them to attend the same institution at an extortionate cost.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:28 PM
 
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College was turned into a jobs training program. This is what we get for not valuing intelligence as a society. We idolized the laborer and condescend the philosopher, all while expecting them to attend the same institution at an extortionate cost.
College does not make you any more intelligent than you were going in. It's a form of consumption spending and signalling device.

edit: You want to increase intelligence, increase funding for very early childhood nutrition and education (which can have an impact after the kid is born) while reducing all other incentives and subsidies toward economically viable single parenting (to alter parenthood decision patterns).

By the time you're 18 you can improve specific skills but general intelligence is pretty much set in stone.
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