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Old 11-22-2017, 06:46 AM
 
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The Democratic legislature under Barack Obama had every opportunity to legislate net neutrality and yet they didn't. So, that left it up to the Executive Branch to draft rules, which can be rescinded and/or changed. That's where we are today. If Democrats were so damned worried about the internet, why didn't they do something about it via statute when they had the chance? Now you cry crocodile tears because the Trump Administration is using every tool in its toolbox to enact its policies. Try winning elections if you folks want to realize the policies you seek.
Let's put the partisan hack lenses for a second.

Is getting rid of NN good and why?

 
Old 11-22-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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This is good news. This was another Obama government takeover. Obama never knew anything that shouldn't be regulated (controlled) by the Federal Government. That was part of his "fundamental transformation" plan. Government control of everything.
Trump is no different in that regard. When it comes to this, nothing really changes despite who is elected, the Govt keeps overstepping its bounds.

I can honestly not think of one single thing Govt is not somehow involved in.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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Who controls the internet in North Korea?

Oh, that's right, the government.
you have the same people who are complaining about trump being a dictator, tyrant, boob, imbecile, etc, wanting to empower his admin to regulate the internet.
Cant make this stuff up.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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Who controls the internet in North Korea?

Oh, that's right, the government.

The internet has operated under the rules of NN since it's inception, the Obama era regulations only formalized those rules. NN does not have anything to do with content you are viewing. It's the exact opposite and helps insure that you get equal access to the sites and services you choose.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 06:59 AM
 
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The internet has operated under the rules of NN since it's inception, the Obama era regulations only formalized those rules. NN does not have anything to do with content you are viewing. It's the exact opposite and helps insure that you will get equal access to the sites and services you choose.
Honestly, I don't know that much about NN.

I do have a reflex reaction of giving government control due to the history of government control.

I'll do some more research.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 07:01 AM
 
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Net Neutrality will probably be gone

Anything for a buck. Naturally the Republicans would push this, it fits their MO.

It seems the entire country has a price tag on it.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 07:11 AM
 
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This is good news. This was another Obama government takeover. Obama never knew anything that shouldn't be regulated (controlled) by the Federal Government. That was part of his "fundamental transformation" plan. Government control of everything.
POTUS Tweet: "Obama’s attack on the internet is another top down power grab. Net neutrality is the Fairness Doctrine. Will target conservative media.
1:58 PM - Nov 12, 2014" - realDonaldTrump

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Old 11-22-2017, 07:16 AM
 
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Pedro, under NN you pay the ISP for access to the internet. They can offer you different tiered plans based on whatever they dream up. They can offer you different tiered plans based on bandwidth used, speed of the connection, time or anything else.

There is only one limitation on what they can do, if you are paying for X amount of bandwidth they need to deliver to you CNN's or Fox's content without any inteference. Keep in mind Fox and CNN on the other end are paying for their own bandwidth costs and if one of those sites is paying for a slow ass connection that is what you will get from that site. NN doesn't prevent the other service from delivered to you at much higher speeds.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 07:21 AM
 
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Darn I was really looking forward to state censorship of the interwebs (for my own good of course)
The internet has operated under the rules of NN since it's inception, the Obama era rules only formalized those rules.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 07:22 AM
 
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Pedro, under NN you pay the ISP for access to the internet. They can offer you different tiered plans based on whatever they dream up. They can offer you different tiered plans based on bandwidth used, speed of the connection, time or anything else.

There is only one limitation on what they can do, if you are paying for X amount of bandwidth they need to deliver to you CNN's or Fox's content without any inteference. Keep in mind Fox and CNN on the other end are paying for their own bandwidth costs and if one of those sites is paying for a slow ass connection that is what you will get from that site. NN doesn't prevent the other service from delivered to you at much higher speeds.
What I find funny, is how the telecoms have been able to exploit peoples anti-government biases to convince them that net neutrality rules are basically the opposite of what they actually are. Good job being manipulated y'all! Your dogmatic beliefs don't make you harder to control, the way some people seem to think they do - they just make you predictable aka exploitable. And when the telecoms start messing with peoples internet packages like we have seen happen in countries that don't regulate NN, people are going to be PISSED.
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