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Old 07-17-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ferd View Post
so when there is a police involved shooting we toss all investigative rules?


that makes no sense at all. this should be treated like every other thing the police investigate. They shouldn't say anything beyond the fact that they are investigating until there is some conclusion. period.
Have you ever seen this same treatment when a cop is shot and killed? Is there ever a call to wait and see and get the full story before coming to a conclusion? Is there ever even a thought that maybe the person that shot the cop was justified and acting in fear of their life or self defense?

No, when a cop is shot within minutes it is announced that the suspect was a murderous scumbag and the entire LEO community drops what they are doing in hopes that they can catch the suspect and gun him down to send the message that cops take care of their own.

Cops operate like organized crime and large criminal gangs with many of the same rules. Immediate violent retaliation for being "dissed". Threats and intimidation used to maintain a culture of "no snitching". Lies and false statements given to investigators to make it next to impossible to make charges stick to a fellow cop. And the 100% reality that any truly good cop would find themselves in danger from their peers if they don't stand up for their fellow LEO no matter how dirty they are.

 
Old 07-17-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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Minneapolis has a citizens review board that is supposed to review complaints against the cops. Pretty toothless though, it's more a PR deal for the city so they don't have to take the calls.
That's sad to hear.
 
Old 07-17-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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If the cop does REAL TIME (prison) for this........its going to stink up the place because people are going to wonder why cops go to jail for killing a white person....but not a black person.
For the record, according to the article the NAACP is protesting with them. It's too bad that far too often they do not get the same respect in return.
 
Old 07-17-2017, 10:43 AM
 
Location: alt reality
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If the cop does REAL TIME (prison) for this........its going to stink up the place because people are going to wonder why cops go to jail for killing a white person....but not a black person.
And the bad rep around the world would be well deserved. This culture of walking cops through the justice system has officially backfired. In huge ways at that. This country has put itself in quite the conundrum.
 
Old 07-17-2017, 10:48 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Originally Posted by El Nombre;48866368[B
]We need all the facts before I make a judgment[/b]. If this woman had just obeyed orders she'd be alive. She was probably an entitled thug.
The cops in this case already know exactly what happened. They're just conferring with the legal team to figure a way to spin it: lady reached into her waistband, refused to follow orders, matched the description of a suspected armed robber, gun went off by itself, etc., etc.
 
Old 07-17-2017, 10:50 AM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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Where does it say they have to turn them on to answer a call? The way I read it is they're supposed to turn them on once they encounter a suspicious person, suspicious activity, they have to drive at high speeds, a normal interaction escalates, etc. I don't see anywhere that it says they need to turn non the bodycams just because they're responding to a call or speaking to the lady who called 9/11. Maybe that should be the rule, I just don't see it as it's written right now.
After reading their policy, the bodycam should have been on, if they were responding to a possible assault, that would certainly fall under "any contact involving criminal activity" as well as their catch all "Activation shall occur as soon as possible, but before any citizen contact".
 
Old 07-17-2017, 10:52 AM
 
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Cop mistook her for a 300lb, 20 year old bald black man with a goatee?
 
Old 07-17-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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Where is WLM? Where is All Lives Matter?
This only further separates people.
 
Old 07-17-2017, 10:58 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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You weren't there, We need all the facts.
Yep. So let's have them. There was a second cop on the scene. What does he have to say? Do they have to get their story straight before he can give his version of events?
 
Old 07-17-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Shot through the door, sounds like an accident. Why the gun was drawn in the first place is the question.
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