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The greatest number of enrollees was between 11-12 Million. It never really got off the ground, the Mandates were a failure.
The mandates were not severe enough, if they raised them they would have more participants. Now we have no mandates so we can forget about the income generated by healthy young people.
The mandates were not severe enough, if they raised them they would have more participants. Now we have no mandates so we can forget about the income generated by healthy young people.
You mean that Obamacare was so successful and so popular that....we had to force people to purchase it. And that even the draconian punishments imposed as part of Oblubbercare weren't enough to make people purchase it and should have been even more severe? What would you approve of-whipping? Electric shock?
Guess what-when a program is SO bad that you have to use force to get people to participate-it's a bad program. Only GOVERNMENT can justify that. A private business actually has to offer value.
It's little surprise that leftists support compulsion to force compliance.
You mean that Obamacare was so successful and so popular that....we had to force people to purchase it. And that even the draconian punishments imposed as part of Oblubbercare weren't enough to make people purchase it and should have been even more severe? What would you approve of-whipping? Electric shock?
Guess what-when a program is SO bad that you have to use force to get people to participate-it's a bad program. Only GOVERNMENT can justify that. A private business actually has to offer value.
It's little surprise that leftists support compulsion to force compliance.
No. How many times does this have to be said? Insurance won't work if you only buy it when you need it. THAT is why there was a mandate.
You mean that Obamacare was so successful and so popular that....we had to force people to purchase it. And that even the draconian punishments imposed as part of Oblubbercare weren't enough to make people purchase it and should have been even more severe? What would you approve of-whipping? Electric shock?
Guess what-when a program is SO bad that you have to use force to get people to participate-it's a bad program. Only GOVERNMENT can justify that. A private business actually has to offer value.
It's little surprise that leftists support compulsion to force compliance.
You need to have young healthy people participate in any health care plan to be successful, no plan can survive with just old sick people. Asking people to donate to their health care when they are young rather than wait to be sick isn't what I would call draconian. So tell me, are Medicare and Social Security bad programs, after all people are being "forced" to participate.
The ACA has it's problems but many who viewed it unfavorably the last 6 years have changed their mind. Say what you want but it served millions of people that would have never had health care. Many of those sycophants that have been asking to repeal the ACA are finally waking up to the reality of the GOP proposal and it's not pretty.
Enjoy yourself. I like my employer insurance. Never took a test. WE cover a wide range from very healthy to very sick employees, btw.
So, do you think we should rid America of small businesses to fix the healthcare insurance problem? I'm not sure what your point is exactly. 28 million small businesses in America account for 54% of all U.S. sales, and run our economy. What do you suggest all of us do exactly?
Just FYI, the rate of employer offered insurance has been on a steady decline over the last decade.
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Sorry, but the ball is in the court of the GOP now and has been since they took over the country in January. They were the ones who traveled the country and made the talk show rounds crying about how terrible the ACA was for eight years. For all the crying and moaning they did, you'd think they would have come up with a plan to blow the ACA out of the water. But they didn't.
They cried and moaned and that's it.
Exactly.
Just like the person you quoted, many Trump supporters have tried to defend Donald, saying "we didn't create this ACA mess, Democrats/Obama did." That's Deflection 101. They refuse to answer the question and instead change the subject "it was the democrat's fault!" LOL.
Bottom line is that Trump traveled the country telling tens of thousands of his supporters at rallies that he was going to repeal and replace Obamacare immediately. "Could be same day, maybe same hour."
Trump has tried MULTIPLE times to pass his healthcare plan, and it's failed every. single. time. And that's a fact, nothing Trumpers can claim is "fake news."
Repeal and replace of Obama care was Trump's biggest campaign issue...and after promising to deliver on that issue Day 1, we are two days away from Trump's 6 month mark in office...and his healthcare plan is dead in the water once again.
Repeal and replace of Obama care was Trump's biggest campaign issue...and after promising to deliver on that issue Day 1, we are two days away from Trump's 6 month mark in office...and his healthcare plan is dead in the water once again.
Not to mention..if he can't rob medicaid of 700 -800 billion dollars his tax reform plan is dead in the water, that entire house of cards was based on a bizarre estimate of 3-4% GDP growth and having lots of money with which to fund tax breaks to the .01%
Enjoy yourself. I like my employer insurance. Never took a test. WE cover a wide range from very healthy to very sick employees, btw.
Nice if you can get it. And what about people who are unable to work or get employer insurance, such as the sick, elderly, disabled? Not to mention folks whose employer doesn't provide that.
Maybe delinking health coverage from your employer would help people with entrepreneurial ideas take the plunge but are hesitant because they would lose their health coverage that's tied to a job or employer.
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