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Old 07-18-2017, 07:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
GREAT, so you admit it's o.k., but with trump, not so cool.....even though obama did it also......with "russia"?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE


Of course this means nothing...right?
That was not good, either.

Two points:
1) Two wrongs don't make a right. "Both sides!!" has never been a good defense, and yelling "Obama, too!" is not a valid defense here, either.

2) Did it occur in the same political context? Stop being so obtuse here - it's very clear why people are looking at this skeptically considering everything else going on.

It's not proof of anything, per se - but anyone with enough sense of the world would realize why this is the kind of thing that you disclose. This could have been a non-story. Disclose and move on. The end.

 
Old 07-18-2017, 07:08 PM
 
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This quote probably sums up, better than I can, why this conversation between Trump and Putin was such a concern:



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/w...T.nav=top-news
DO you know every meeting that happened with any president, dinner or not?

You still don't care that obama stated he would have more leeway for putin when he was re-elected....


Amazing....
 
Old 07-18-2017, 07:12 PM
 
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That was not good, either.
Agreed, but according to the left, this is old and "Not Now." so therefore, it old news and does not matter


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Two points:
1) Two wrongs don't make a right. "Both sides!!" has never been a good defense, and yelling "Obama, too!" is not a valid defense here, either.
Agreed again, but when the left will admit that there own has done the EXACT same thing, rather than call it old new and NOT NOW....then maybe we can move forward....


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2) Did it occur in the same political context? Stop being so obtuse here - it's very clear why people are looking at this skeptically considering everything else going on.
No, obama happened in a much worse situation than trump was in....


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It's not proof of anything, per se - but anyone with enough sense of the world would realize why this is the kind of thing that you disclose. This could have been a non-story. Disclose and move on. The end.
When do you have to disclose anything, after you've filled out your SC paperwork?

It never should have been a story or all those people that were there would have said something....
 
Old 07-18-2017, 07:14 PM
 
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DO you know every meeting that happened with any president, dinner or not?
That's the problem, nobody does... except Trump, Putin and Putin's translator. You know who else does not know, the State Department, National Security Advisor, CIA, joint chiefs of staff, etc.


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You still don't care that obama stated he would have more leeway for putin when he was re-elected....


Amazing....
As far as Obama, relations deteriorated during his administration with Russia as Obama and the EU were imposing sanctions on Russia for Crimea, and, as I further recall, there were no Russian hacks into Romney's email accounts.

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Old 07-18-2017, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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You made the statement, as fact.....you must know something. If you did not know, then why did you respond like you knew what you were talking about?
I was not born yesterday ... At 64 I know my way around a bit. But I trust my instincts - never failed me.
 
Old 07-18-2017, 07:18 PM
 
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So when are you Trumpsters going to get tired of his lying to you? He and the whole Trump family are con-artists and salesmen. This isn't a reality show you know!
 
Old 07-18-2017, 07:26 PM
 
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So when are you Trumpsters going to get tired of his lying to you? He and the whole Trump family are con-artists and salesmen. This isn't a reality show you know!
Wait until they find out where the idea for "the wall" came from, why it was given that phrase and why trump was encouraged to use it. Fiddle = Trump Voters, Bow = Trump's insatiable need for adoration.
 
Old 07-18-2017, 07:31 PM
 
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Thought the tweet was a joke. Now I'm seeing it is referring probably to an exchange 'in full view' of others but without anyone but Putin & his translator to confirm or deny content. Well isn't that reassuring -- lololololol.

Meh -- it's questionable -- but once again --Trump has no consideration that sitting down having a one on one with Putin without any American translators may not be the wisest thing for him to do.

He doesn't care, he doesn't get it -- he's ignorant, naive, awkward.
 
Old 07-18-2017, 07:35 PM
 
Location: NJ
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And apparently didn't feel that he needed an interpreter, because relying on Putin's interpreter was good enough. Not like Putin's interpreter might, you know, tend to shade things in Putin's favor or anything.

Aside from the interpreter issue, why wasn't this information made public? What is Donald Trump hiding??

http://twitter.com/jonlovett/status/887432416255631360
was that the meeting where trump whispered off mic that he'd have more flexibility after the election???


oops, that was obama.... no one was the least bit curious, so why the curiosity now?


its not like russia is an enemy...if you can believe obama
 
Old 07-18-2017, 07:37 PM
 
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The stupidity of the American Public is simply amazing...
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