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Old 07-19-2017, 08:27 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I am glad to see the change. Growing up in the 50s, a Jewish friend of mine was forced to sing Christmas carols at school or stay home.

Most Christian kids I knew would've happily refused to sing Christmas carols if it meant a day off from school.

 
Old 07-19-2017, 08:29 AM
 
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What it really shows is how weak christians have become.
I hope for your sake you'll still keep that smile when you meet your maker face to face. I just wish I could see it...
 
Old 07-19-2017, 08:33 AM
 
Location: SC
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Boy, that IS evil. How dare they try to treat everyone the same.
 
Old 07-19-2017, 08:33 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Exactly. These people were probably not even Satanists. They were making a valid argument. However, there is an important distinction they should have made. I used to belong to the Freedom from Religion Foundation, and when we brought lawsuits against the government regarding this issue, we always argued that religious icons and symbols should be removed completely, not that other religious symbols in addition to Christianity should be included. That's because the government should not promote ANY religion. Where religious displays and promotion on government property is concerned, separation of church and state doctrine dictates freedom from religion, not freedom of religion.
 
Old 07-19-2017, 08:38 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Please save me the "BS" spin if was an Islam monument it would still be there. The truth is the left, satanists and muslims have one thing in common they all hate christianity.
Why is it so important for evangelical Republicans to have Christian monuments on public land? Why not place them on private property?

I know why. It's all about showing the "Godless heathens" who is boss.
 
Old 07-19-2017, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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Please save me the "BS" spin if was an Islam monument it would still be there. The truth is the left, satanists and muslims have one thing in common they all hate christianity.
That's silly. The majority of left-wing/progressive folks are Christian or agnostic, and even among those who are atheist, most of them don't "hate Christianity." What they hate is the fundamentalist tendency to push their religious views into pubic policy debates - such as teaching kids that Creationism is a "science". Most Muslims don't hate Christianity either, although they do have their own version of fundamentalism and a lot of them do hate "Western values" - which happen to be a lot of the same values that some Christian fundamentalists hate (e.g., graphic sex, etc.). It is not even clear that Satanist "hate Christianity" as such. Probably many do, but most of them are basically just hedonists who resent Christian - especially fundamentalist Christian - restrictions stemming from sexual prudishness, fear of mind-altering drugs, etc.

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Old 07-19-2017, 08:46 AM
 
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I hope for your sake you'll still keep that smile when you meet your maker face to face. I just wish I could see it...
I bet you do, unfortunately you will be wormfood like everyone else. Meanwhile, no one cares about your empty threats from your fake god.
 
Old 07-19-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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Please save me the "BS" spin if was an Islam monument it would still be there. The truth is the left, satanists and muslims have one thing in common they all hate christianity.

Nah! Gandhi explained it more accurately: "I like your Christ, I don't like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
 
Old 07-19-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I hope for your sake you'll still keep that smile when you meet your maker face to face. I just wish I could see it...
That's SO scary!

 
Old 07-19-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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The left is not mentioned in this article. For someone is presumably a Christian, you are far too willing to lie.

It's a consistent position that this town is taking. Monuments on public property should be religiously neutral. There's nothing evil about that, even if you disagree that it's the right position.
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