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It is just a grotesque spectacle that McCain, who has the means and the plan giving him access to the best treatment of his condition, is returning to Washington to do his part to ensure that millions of poor and working people will be denied even the most basic of health care. His state governor is opposed to this bill. The voters of his state are opposed. It is estimated that 400,000 of his constituents will lose their coverage and tens of thousands of Arizona health care workers will lose their jobs. But here he is proudly choosing party ideology over country, party over people.
The current law would insist on letting McCain die. The government model would determine that an 80 year old man is not worth the expenditure of costly treatment to only extend his life a few extra months. That is the "death panel" the Democrats say do not exist.
What current law? What death panel?
McCain's 80 years old and it's likely Medicare is his primary insurance.
Medicare would pay for surgery to remove a blood clot in his eye, which led to the discovery of brain cancer.
Medicare would pick up the lion's share of Cancer Treatment.
No idea if McCain relies on his Federal healthcare plan or a supplimental to pick up the co- insurance that Medicare does not. Unlike most, he is a wealthy man and can pay out of pocket for the best of everything.
With all his health issues, if McCain had to live under the pre-ACA rules, he would be dead. Period. The only thing keeping him alive is the ACA rules and any special health benefits he gets as a senator.
No he wouldn't. The ACA is irrelevant when it comes to McCain and his wife. Cindy McCain's wealth is extensive enough that they can afford any treatment available strictly out of pocket.
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He would have had to sell all his 7+ houses for a few more breaths because the pre-existing clauses probably would have made his insurance unfordable - even for him and his money wife.
No, he wouldn't. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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This is exactly why we should never allow politicians to excuse themselves from the rules affecting normal citizens. But for some reason we do. We make their lives more valuable than our own - and they take advantage of that.
"The F.E.H.B.P., as it’s known, was started in 1959, a few years before Medicare, and was meant to cover some nine million government employees—civil-service workers, the courts, the Post Office, members of Congress, and more. It wasn’t a single plan but, rather, as a Times story put it, “a supermarket offering 300 private health plans.” (Even the right-learning Heritage Foundation called it “a showcase of consumer choice and free-market competition.”) One may get a sense of its scope and inclusiveness—its supermarket-ness—in the way that the Office of Personnel Management, which administers the program, explains it to federal employees. Much of the program—for instance, the idea that no one can be refused, or charged more, for a preëxisting condition, or that dependents under twenty-six are covered—will sound familiar to anyone conversant with the most attractive parts of the Affordable Care Act."
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If it’s sometimes hard to understand what makes Republican legislators so angry, here is a theory: their fury may not stem from some ungraspable principle, or hatred of President Obama’s historic victory (or of Obama himself), but, rather, from something personal, and selfish. Under the A.C.A., members of Congress, and congressional staff, among other Capitol Hill employees, were no longer eligible for the F.E.H.B.P. In the chilly language of government directives, the Office of Personnel Management Web site said that “Section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act requires that Members of Congress and their official staff obtain coverage by health plans created under the Affordable Care Act or coverage offered via an Affordable Insurance Exchange.”
Ouch! In other words, the comfortable choices that were available for more than fifty years were suddenly transferred to the slightly murky passageways of Obamacare. And it follows that, if the Affordable Care Act is repealed, members of Congress would be able to return to the federal plan that they, like millions of federal employees, were so fond of. Twenty million other Americans won’t."
And what would prevent the McCains from going to some other country and paying for the entire treatment personally out of pocket?.....Answer: Absolutely nothing would prevent them from doing so.
Guess the cancer treatments (age 85) and hip replacement (age 84) my 86 year old father had didnt happen. Wow. Must have dreamed it.
One has to wonder where some people like that poster you responded to acquires their misinformation. What snot rag journalism? Or perhaps they dream it and believe it's factual information.
I wish Senator McCain the best of health and a full recovery from this cancer diagnosis. But would the Republicans change their tune about Obamacare and the failed Trumpcare bid if Senator McCain was not able to get his choice in treatment because of these laws and the proposed changes to the current healthcare law/s?
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"Prior to the passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
(also known as ACA, or Obamacare), members of Congress
received the same healthcare insurance benefits as
any other federal employee through the
Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, or FEHBP.
During the mark-up of the ACA bill, however, lawmakers inserted a provision
(Section 1312(d)(3)(D)) that requires members of Congress
and designated congressional staff members to obtain their health insurance
through ACA exchanges rather than continue to receive
their healthcare coverage through the FEHBP."
Your point, that millions of Americans need help with their healthcare expenses is valid.
Mccain probably has VA benefits and he married well, so your whine is not allowed.
McCain unlike so many who are at the mercy of Obamacare has money and influence.
Obamacare or not don't we pay for his healthcare?
I don't know what people mean when they say " Obamacare"
Most all public and private insurance complies with the ACA, including Individual Plans acquired via exchanges.
Surgery to remove blood clots is rather common. Cancer treatment for those who are insured is very common.
Private insurers and public insurers like Medicare, Medicaid and VA pay the lion's share of bills.
ERs do not treat Cancer. That an ER cannot deny stabilizing a patient regardless of insurance or ability to pay, does not mean the ER/ hospital will not bill the patient. Was this way before and after the ACA.
oho for God sake, this has nothing to do with the health care bill, Don't you think there are Republicans as well as Democrats and others who do not bother to vote that are affected by whatever health care plan that is in place at any given time. May I also add, get with it, life is not always fair. Those with money or contacts will always have benefits the rest of us do not. That is the realism of life. I know some who really think it can be changed, well check how life is in other countries. We are lucky to have all we do. At least most of us do not live like people in third world countries. If you do not believe me, just visit a few other places in the world.
But that bolded truism upsets progressives .
During one of Obama's debates with Hillary during their 2008 race, Charlie Gibson pointed out raising the federal capital gains tax rate and having overall revenue from that source then decrease, and then revenue increasing when the rate was lowered, and increasing again when the rate was lowered again, and then posed the question (to Obama)...Why raise the rate at all? Obama then answered with his infamous "purposes of fairness" comment.
That is Medicare. Everyone gets that. I am referring to private insurance.
ACA compliment insurance denies payment for removal of blood clots and Cancer treatment? That's news to every privately insured person in the US who has been diagnosed with a blood clot or Cancer.
Perhaps you are confusing ACA compliant plans with some of the prolific junk plans that were sold before the ACA. Many excluded hospitalization, Cancer Treatment and medications and/ or capped the $ value of claims per year or lifetime.
Again my question would he or other senators change their tune, if Senator McCain didn't have all these treatment options.
The Federal Government offers many, many choices of insurance to federal employees and their immediate families, the cost of which is subsidized by the Federal Government. Same deal at state, county and municipal levels of government.
Nearly half the population is insured via their employer's subsided plans. This was true before and after the ACA. Those in the Individual Pplan market represent the smallest percentage of people, albeit the absolute number is tens of millions.
Given McCain's age, Medicare is his primary payer, no different than other seniors.
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McCain's 80 years old and it's likely Medicare is his primary insurance.
Medicare would pay for surgery to remove a blood clot in his eye, which led to the discovery of brain cancer.
Medicare would pick up the lion's share of Cancer Treatment.
No idea if McCain relies on his Federal healthcare plan or a supplimental to pick up the co- insurance that Medicare does not. Unlike most, he is a wealthy man and can pay out of pocket for the best of everything.
Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale does not accept Medicare assignment. He can still go there, but he needs supplemental or out of pocket to pay for the difference. I don't know, but they probably don't accept exchange policies sold in Arizona either nor do they participate in the vast majority of HMOs offered through employers.
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