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yes- and Trump courted them by telling them he would erase the reason they left according to you, so here he comes, and viola, NAFTA is still here....so maybe the reason they still support him is not really NAFTA, btw- famers were one of the biggest groups lobbying to keep NAFTA....
I'm not defending Trump, just trying to answer the original question. What Trump is doing now has no bearing on it.
so lying to you is ok, as long as he makes you feel like he's listening to you...got it...and who's the snowflake?
Since he's been elected my $$ has doubled. The reason? Illegals are dwindling and I happen to compete with illegal slave labor. I'm a plumber. His "lying" got rid of my problem. I prefer to call it a promise met.
His promises cannot be broken until his term has ended. Looks to me he's trying, I'll save my judgement for after his term. You can pre judge all you want, but be careful, that's exactly how Hilary lost. I wouldn't recommend it.
I don't actually think anyone's a snowflake. It's pretty much impossible to apply that as a criticism. Is everyone unique? Yes. Is everyone fragile? Yes. Let me know if you run into any superheros, I'll gladly let them call me a snowflake. Until then.
"Why did liberals lose the white blue collar vote? "
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Originally Posted by whogo
Identity politics?
Wedge issues.
Theoretically, if all working class voters stuck together they would be a formidable force, however many can be persuaded as one issue voters. Everyone knows examples of this, single issues can be exploited to divide the electorate.
Big money needs to do this in order to advance it's agenda.
but how and the hell do these same people turn around and vote for Trump who was best friends with the Clintons for years?
Moderate Democrats and Moderate Republicans. Those who believed the White House needed a spanking.
I didn't vote for Trump, but, I do see the attraction to flipping off the political system. That's why nobody is surprised but the far left that America would elect him. That was the point.
I think you may have meant to say HOW, not WHY, because they sure didn't lose it for the fun of it - or on purpose.
BLM, Nancy Pelosi, Code Pink, The War on Cops, Second Amendment attacks, the expansion of Food Stamp programs, Eric Holder's weakness, the DNC backing of Hillary Clinton, the admission of huge numbers of illegals, ......... Those are some of the reasons, I think.
The Democratic Party is just sort of a turn-off for those in blue collar trades. Unions like to think they direct votes for their membership, but that's less true than it used to be.
Last edited by Listener2307; 07-20-2017 at 01:54 PM..
"Why did liberals lose the white blue collar vote? "
Wedge issues.
Theoretically, if all working class voters stuck together they would be a formidable force, however many can be persuaded as one issue voters. Everyone knows examples of this, single issues can be exploited to divide the electorate.
Big money needs to do this in order to advance it's agenda.
Bingo.
Andrew Carnegie famously exploited ethnic divisions among his workers to keep them from forming a labor union. Today's robber barons are using the same strategy, and it's working.
Divide the working class against itself, and conquer.
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