Why did liberals lose the white blue collar vote? (Mexican, polls, racist)
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I'm thinking because Dem's treat them as adults and thought they could use reason to understand the issues they face in an ever more connected world, whereas GOP lie to them and tell them everything's gonna go back to the way it was as long as they give tax cuts to billionaires and keep the gays from getting married.
First of all, Dems treat us as the slaves that get to pay for all the free **** they give to anyone willing to pimp the system.
Include in "anyone" immigrants (both legal and illegal) that get far more back from government than what they contribute while driving down prevailing wages, people that have many more children than they could possibly support and mooches in general.
1964, top rate cutfrom 91% to 77%.......Democrats controlled both houses of Congress.
1965, top rate cut from 77% to 70%.......Democrats controlled both houses of Congress.
1982, top rate cut from 70% to 50%.......Democrats controlled both houses of Congress.
1987, top rate cut from 50% to 38.5%.....Democrats controlled both houses of Congress.
1988, top rate cut from 38.5% to 33%.....Democrats controlled both houses of Congress.
1991, top rate cut from 33% to 31%........Democrats controlled both houses of Congress.
When did same-sex marriage increase anyone's take home pay?
I think you may have meant to say HOW, not WHY, because they sure didn't lose it for the fun of it - or on purpose.
BLM, Nancy Pelosi, Code Pink, The War on Cops, Second Amendment attacks, the expansion of Food Stamp programs, Eric Holder's weakness, the DNC backing of Hillary Clinton, the admission of huge numbers of illegals, ......... Those are some of the reasons, I think.
1. It started out that way to a large degree in the 1960's - consider that the "hard hats" and union guys in NYC famously beat up or jeered the "hippies" (the left)...you can look that up on the internet - I think it maybe called the hard hat riot.
2. Great current Book "Detroit - Autopsy of America" - it clearly lays out who ALL of the white workers in Detroit were - they were largely from the South (like the blacks there) who had come up for jobs. Therefore, they are by nature more "southerners" although we like to think of them as being mid-western. When Unions were doing right by them, they voted with the Unions. Now...they are more likely to vote for The Boss or someone they hope will be their Big Boss and give them a job.
3. The entire "Southern Strategy" (started by Nixon) really confused things and it came down to "if you care about black/brown people you are a dem, if you don't you are a Republican". The same strategy has spread to states like PA which is often called "Philly and Pitt with Alabama in-between"...
Besides those three I'm going to throw out an opinion which will likely anger some "liberals". I should mention that not only am I a liberal, but in my day (early 1970's and onward) I might even be considered a radical (Socialist Democrat in the mold of Bernie, etc.)....
I feel that the "gay agenda" had a BIG factor in Trump becoming POTUS. It would take a book to explain it, but the simple explanation is this - again, IMHO.
1. I would suggest that the LBGT etc. community has NO party - their interest is self-interest. I'm not saying they don't have rights or beefs or are wrong, but I do not see them as naturally "liberal" or even "progressive", more "we figured out how to grab power and rights and we are gonna keep going no matter what".
2. The American public moves slowly. They really didn't have a problem with civil unions, gay marriage and all the other full rights deserved and gained by gay folks. BUT, my theory is that the "trans" issue....making it into a national and international headline (just at the wrong time) has created a mass exodus from the Democratic party. It's not that these people leaving dislike anyone - it's just that the issue feels so far from any problems they know and understand.....and, let's be real, most of us over 35 or 40 (and many under) simply do not understand (or agree with) many aspects of the "trans" thing.
Note - I'm not looking to debate the "trans" issues...just stating that it was one of many reasons Sen. Clinton is not POTUS and the Dems are having a more difficult time with their "tent size".
We could add "black lives matter" - again, as someone who has been involved in many non-profits, this has nothing to do with the actual reality. I actually support reparations (told you I was radical!)...but using this as the message angered a lot of people of other colors.
In the end, I think more of the US is still Centrist and would lean Dem if not for the volume of some issues as opposed to others. Hillary lost for many reasons...change even a small thing (Comey announcement) and she probably would have won. If the Trans thing wasn't big in the headlines...again, she would have won.
If "black lives matter" somehow were able to get Black folks out to vote (they didn't), Hillary would have won.
Anyway, that's my take. I don't expect the Democrats to change in these matters. Note - the "change" is really the way they message, not most of what they fight for. But my take is the the opiate addicted masses or local plumber or factory workers don't sit around and list "trans rights" as one of their top five. In fact, they become confused just thinking about it all.
Considering all the big unions have all backed the Dems candidates line item as a matter of policy it is surprising that any blue collar votes went to Trump. Especially back East where the unions have most of their clout. AFL CIO backed Hilary when Obama was nominated. But then had to get behind Obama. However, actual workers got to thinking that there needs to be companies offering jobs before labor contracts can be negotiated. No companies with money, no jobs, no wages, no benefits.
I guess they felt Trump offered a better shot at it from that point of view than Hilary. The Postal Workers Union backed Hilary over Obama to, and they stumped for her this last go as well. Union membership usually votes the way their union tells them to. Not this time it would seem. The only reason I can come up with is what I've already posted....
See, you basically referred to blue collar whites as "white nationalists" and can't figure out how that made them angry?
You're talking about a group that handed Obama large margin wins....now suddenly they don't vote for Hillary and you guys start calling them racists.
Too funny.
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