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Old 07-21-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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So very sad that neither party has any credibility left.


The Dems have Pelosi, Schumer, and Pérez...what a disaster. How on earth are they ever going to mount a credible effort for 2018 or 2020?


I hear that Howard Schultz with run for Pres in 2020. Will he run as a Dem, or an independent? He has organizational skills, and if he can get away from the current imbeciles in DC he really could "clean things up" (AKA Drain the Swamp).
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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I don't find them having a debt to be meaningful.

They've been pushing lots of money into attempts to grab vacated seats by republicans via special elections.

Also, Hillary has her own separate warchest fully under her control so that's money not flowing into the DNC coffers.

Smart move on her part if she has hundreds of millions under her personal control and the DNC is scraping by it enforces her power to dictate terms to democrats and to be able to punish anyone that tries to rival her in the 2020 dem primaries. Basic internal power play just like in 2016 to make sure no one "Obama's" her in the primary.

Barring some sort of catastrophe like an illness etc. Hillary is going to be back in the presidential election in 2020. (Whether you like the idea or not)
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:09 AM
 
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I don't find them having a debt to be meaningful.

They've been pushing lots of money into attempts to grab vacated seats by republicans via special elections.

Also, Hillary has her own separate warchest fully under her control so that's money not flowing into the DNC coffers.

Smart move on her part if she has hundreds of millions under her personal control and the DNC is scraping by it enforces her power to dictate terms to democrats and to be able to punish anyone that tries to rival her in the 2020 dem primaries. Basic internal power play just like in 2016 to make sure no one "Obama's" her in the primary.

Barring some sort of catastrophe like an illness etc. Hillary is going to be back in the presidential election in 2020. (Whether you like the idea or not)
How much DNC money was wasted on that runoff election last month? $50 million? And they still lost? The DNC is a total joke. Remember that ridiculous debate they had to pick the new head of the DNC after the last 2 were fired in utter disgrace (Wasserman-Shultz, Donna Braizile). They ALL fully supported BLM, but the absolute worst example of pandering was from that race baiting idiot


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTHFLqJfdq8
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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The DNC should hit Hillary up for some of the money they wasted on her 2016 campaign. It's not like she isn't flush with cash from her money-laundering operations that masquerade as "charities."
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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Perez did not cause this issue but he most certainly has not helped it.
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Old 07-21-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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Perez did not cause this issue but he most certainly has not helped it.
Well, he made it much worse. No message, no plan, no bipartinship, just profanity laced speeches filled with disunity and hate.
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Old 07-21-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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Well, he made it much worse. No message, no plan, no bipartinship, just profanity laced speeches filled with disunity and hate.
You won't find me disagreeing. "**** that" is not a valid platform.
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Old 07-21-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The losing party typically has bad fundraising until they regroup. It's not partisan, the RNC was there and $23 million in debt in 2010-2011. (compared to the current $3 million DNC debt). In late 2015 the RNC was still $1.8 million in debt.

Politicians only know how to spend OPM... and seemingly no clue how to balance a checkbook.

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Well, he made it much worse. No message, no plan, no bipartinship, just profanity laced speeches filled with disunity and hate.
I think it's quite funny how every single time a politician says he/she isn't going to or shouldn't say something (my mama taught me not to cuss) only to turn around in the very same sentence and say it. It's like they have an aversion to being honest even on the smallest things. I doubt the Dems will do well as the party of four letter expletives.

If the DNC runs on a platform of "we hate Trump" with no clear policy strategy, the results will be identical.

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The DNC should hit Hillary up for some of the money they wasted on her 2016 campaign. It's not like she isn't flush with cash from her money-laundering operations that masquerade as "charities."
The Dems would be better served if they actually acted like they gave a crap about her criminal activities. Rather than doing so they prefer defending her. Protecting their own is one of the few things the Dems do well.
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Old 07-21-2017, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I don't find them having a debt to be meaningful.

They've been pushing lots of money into attempts to grab vacated seats by republicans via special elections.

Also, Hillary has her own separate warchest fully under her control so that's money not flowing into the DNC coffers.

Smart move on her part if she has hundreds of millions under her personal control and the DNC is scraping by it enforces her power to dictate terms to democrats and to be able to punish anyone that tries to rival her in the 2020 dem primaries. Basic internal power play just like in 2016 to make sure no one "Obama's" her in the primary.

Barring some sort of catastrophe like an illness etc. Hillary is going to be back in the presidential election in 2020. (Whether you like the idea or not)
Some believe the third time is the charm. I doubt she could win nomination in 2020, and though I'm still thinking in realistic terms, who knows.
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Old 07-21-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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The DNC doesn't pay its bills.

When they held their 2012 convention here in Charlotte, they left town full of trash and $30M in unpaid bills.
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