Extend the Border Wall Around California (salary, global warming, how much, military)
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This is total BS. The 113 number doesn't count anything illegals pay in to he system. It also counts the costs of US citizens who have illegal parents. It also counts private expenses that the government doesn't pay for. It also assumes that only illegals need things like language classes. It invents Medicaid fraud out of thin air.
Basically, it's a BS report from an anti-immigrant group that went out of their way to make the number as big as they could make it and still sound believable to low information voters.
This is total BS. The 113 number doesn't count anything illegals pay in to he system. It also counts the costs of US citizens who have illegal parents. It also counts private expenses that the government doesn't pay for. It also assumes that only illegals need things like language classes. It invents Medicaid fraud out of thin air.
Basically, it's a BS report from an anti-immigrant group that went out of their way to make the number as big as they could make it and still sound believable to low information voters.
I guess you didn't read the whole article since it didn't fit your agenda. From the article.....
"The report also accounts for taxes paid by illegal aliens about $13 billion a year, resulting in a net cost to taxpayers of about $100 billion. However, the study notes that government at all levels would likely have realized significantly greater revenues if jobs held by illegal aliens had been filled by legal U.S. residents instead".
Of course the cost of those anchor kids should be included! It's a direct cost of their parents coming here illegally in the first place and giving birth on our soil. If they hadn't done that there would be no anchors and those ensuing costs.
The rest is just denial on your part of the facts. I've read the entire article and nothing was in it that you are claiming. This is about illegal aliens not legal immigrants.
FAIR, is not an anti-"immigrant" group. They are anti-illegal alien. And even if they are for a reduced number of legal immigrants based on common sense it does not make them anti-immigrant per se. Those who defend and support illegal aliens are the low information people and anti-American to boot.
President Trump should extend the border wall around California.
People from there flock to other states, and bring their failed political beliefs they fled from with them. Then they try to change the political climate to their beliefs. States like Nevada used to be conservative/republican but stuff like this have flipped the state blue. And now they're trying to do the same to Utah, Arizona, Texas, etc...
Uh; easy there.
MOST of Calif's still the US: it's places like LA County and the SF bay area that are the problem.
That report is idiotic. It's from an anti-immigrant hate group, and would discarded by any economist with a brain.
Has nothing to do with "liberal"; Republicans were pro-immigrant too until the Trump cult took over the party. Mainline Republicans want nothing to do with this nativist nonsense. The only reason the U.S. is so wealthy and powerful is because of immigrants.
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Originally Posted by JasonF
This is total BS. The 113 number doesn't count anything illegals pay in to he system. It also counts the costs of US citizens who have illegal parents. It also counts private expenses that the government doesn't pay for. It also assumes that only illegals need things like language classes. It invents Medicaid fraud out of thin air.
Basically, it's a BS report from an anti-immigrant group that went out of their way to make the number as big as they could make it and still sound believable to low information voters.
If talking legal aliens, I agree their kind usually help the US.
If talking ILLEGAL aliens, nope. IMHO any person who's in favor of keeping illegal aliens around's NO better than a slavery fan of 1860.
President Trump should extend the border wall around California.
People from there flock to other states, and bring their failed political beliefs they fled from with them. Then they try to change the political climate to their beliefs. States like Nevada used to be conservative/republican but stuff like this have flipped the state blue. And now they're trying to do the same to Utah, Arizona, Texas, etc...
Yes. And CA should stop sending federal taxes for Southern Red states to suck up like a 7 day old tick on a dog.
That's the estimate. You know better? At any rate it can't cost more than the $113 billion a year that illegals cost us every single year. The wall would be a one time cost. Why don't you want a secure border? And don't come back with the BS that walls don't work. They are a huge deterrant otherwise why do we have them around our homes and businesses? The good walls on the border have already been proven to be highly effective.
Of course I don't know - I just know that large infrastructure projects, especially one as ambitious (and likely to have litigation come against it) as this one never come in at estimates.
I think a wall will work with a certain type of person crossing the border - but it won't be effective against all illegal immigration - and for what it'll cost in the end, I'm very skeptical of its worth in that context. I believe better security at the border and actually holding companies that high illegal immigrants accountable for their practices (take away their supply of jobs and watch the problem decrease immensely) could go a long way towards easing the problem.
Yes. And CA should stop sending federal taxes for Southern Red states to suck up like a 7 day old tick on a dog.
That really is the issue. Stop taking all the tax money generated by cities and make rural areas fund themselves. Thinking the entire West Coast wouldn't mind a border wall if we could keep our tax money within our borders.
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