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Old 07-27-2017, 04:30 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The real question is - What's wrong with California's K-12 education system? This is just community college so I'm thinking they are all Californians therefore the rot is from within the state education system that they aren't ready for intermediate algebra. How could they be needed in the workforce if the success bar keeps being lowered to accommodate them? But hey, keep building those gazillion dollar schools.
Exactly.

Is anyone in California's state government looking into that?
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Old 07-27-2017, 05:04 PM
 
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Exactly.

Is anyone in California's state government looking into that?
No, they deliberately look the other way. See no evil, must be no evil.
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Japan
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This REALLY offends me because it seems to just perpetuate the very wrong idea that certain ethnic groups are not as smart as others.
Reality is so rude.
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Japan
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I have a family member who is a theoretical physics professor. The profile of his intellectual spectrum would be a really odd one. He has huge abilities in certain types of math and abstract thinking but he couldn't balance books or perform accounting functions if his life depended on it. Proving that even within the mathematical ability component there are varied abilities. It's inadequate to say someone is "good at math". What type of math? Fortunately for him his huge ability did not fall into the verbal or social sciences area because pretty much all else in his ability profile is zip. I don't think he could name for you the major cross street one block from the house he lived in for 40 yrs. Let's be smart about who we cull from the herd as it were.
The absent minded professor... some people just like to think about complex abstractions and find almost anything else boring and depressing. I'd bet your relative could balance his books, but only if his life really depended on it.
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Perhaps college of any kind (whether it be 2-year or 4-year) is not an appropriate place for someone who cannot handle simple algebra.
I totally agree. And can we also recognize the fact that a large part of the American population falls into this category? Can we stop claiming that the reason for this is "failing schools" and "institutional racism"? Can America promote a realistic path for these people to gainful employment and stop importing more low-IQ people to compete with them for the jobs they can do?
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Japan
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The real question is - What's wrong with California's K-12 education system? This is just community college so I'm thinking they are all Californians therefore the rot is from within the state education system that they aren't ready for intermediate algebra. How could they be needed in the workforce if the success bar keeps being lowered to accommodate them? But hey, keep building those gazillion dollar schools.
The real answer is - for many students currently in California's K-12 education system algebra is really, really hard. And nobody really knows how to make it not hard for them. Figure out how to teach high school level math, on a mass scale, without superman teachers, to kids in the 80-90 IQ range, and you'll make a fortune.
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Old 07-27-2017, 08:10 PM
 
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The real answer is - for many students currently in California's K-12 education system algebra is really, really hard. And nobody really knows how to make it not hard for them. Figure out how to teach high school level math, on a mass scale, without superman teachers, to kids in the 80-90 IQ range, and you'll make a fortune.
Many countries in the world only have 9 years' general education.
At the end of grade 9, they need to take a exam to determine whether they can be accepted by high school. If not, they either go to vocational schools, or start to work.

In America, probably the general education takes too long. Those who are not college material should not go to high school.
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Old 07-27-2017, 08:15 PM
 
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An LA Times article. I'm curios anyone of the Trump cult called this fake news yet...... I have a suspicion that most likely not!
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Old 07-27-2017, 08:26 PM
 
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College level Algebra...?
That is something that should be learned in middle school.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Send them to trade school.we need mechanics and air conditioning people too. Not everyone is college material. The very idea that everyone needs to go to college is laughable..
Thing is, mechanics and air conditioning people will use math more than many college grads. Look at most of the liberal arts programs. Art, English Lit or feminist studies majors don't need even 9th grade HS math to make fries. At least one of our posters has stated repeatedly that even 4 year universities don't require any math standards for liberal arts majors.

By the same standard though-why do we force people taking "trades" or STEM courses to take classes like sociology, literature or art appreciation? A total waste of time for those that actually want to better themselves and prepare themselves for careers in adulthood. It's another thing for those that are planning on university as a 4 year party and are just looking for an easy major. It's not like we use Shakespeare in our daily lives.
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