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Old 07-26-2017, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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The United States does not and never used the British Imperial System.
Funny, when my employer calculates the number of tons in the shipment of the scrap steel we sell to the local company who buys it from us, we use the British ton (2240 lbs), not the American ton (2000 lbs).
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Old 07-26-2017, 02:32 PM
 
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Funny, when my employer calculates the number of tons in the shipment of the scrap steel we sell to the local company who buys it from us, we use the British ton (2240 lbs), not the American ton (2000 lbs).
I prefer my wine by the hogshead. Nothing precludes the someone from using whatever measurement they like.

However you said it yourself. The "American Ton". The American Customary Unit system is not the British Imperial System.
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Old 07-26-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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Britain has just announced that it will ban the sales of fossil fueled cars by 2040, a year off from France's planned ban. Germany will meet next month to explore the same thing. India is planning to ban new gasoline cars ten years earlier. So, do we keep digging coal and pretending it's 1917 instead of 2017 or do we hop on the tech bandwagon?
Germany isn't really going to do that. They talk a good game on some things but they have some really really strong lobby groups in their country and unlike England and France actually have a pretty strong car manufacturing base and brand.

I'm not understanding the coal reference with regards to this. Cars don't run on coal.
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Old 07-26-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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No, it sounds like the ban only applies to new. The old motors would be unaffected and eventually just die out.
Imagine 2070 in England with people still driving around gas powered "vintage cars" like you see in Cuba today.
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Old 07-26-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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LPG car is becoming increasingly popular in Europe and Asia. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if most cars in Korea rand on LPG. I don't know anything about the sustainability or environmental impact of liquid propane gas, but it may be a viable alternative to gasoline and diesel engines.
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Old 07-26-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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So, do we keep digging coal and pretending it's 1917 instead of 2017 or do we hop on the tech bandwagon?
You should probably consider your comments before making them. Coal supplies electric which is used to run electric cars.

Europe has a high population density, unless there is some vast improvements you will not replace gasoline. What it comes down to is it has huge amount of energy stored in a very small place that is easily replenished assuming you have access to filing station.
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Old 07-26-2017, 02:56 PM
 
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Funny, when my employer calculates the number of tons in the shipment of the scrap steel we sell to the local company who buys it from us, we use the British ton (2240 lbs), not the American ton (2000 lbs).
It's not an "American" ton, it's a short ton. It's been in use forever in the US for bulk materials for easy calculations.
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Old 07-26-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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I think we need to adopt the metric system first.
Clearly a superior sytem since it's based on 10. Clearly an impossibly expensive thing to do.

Construction materials and techniques for example. Most walls, ceiling, roofs and floors are built on 16 inch centers. Multiple pieces of 4'*8' material can simply be attached right to them with very little waste or work.

You'd have three choices:

  • Go fully metric resulting in a huge amount of material waste, energy and time.
  • Half ass it with odd sized metric dimensions, it's still a 4'*8' piece of plywood.
  • Keep both resulting in an enormous amount of expense maintaining two sizes of building materials.
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Old 07-26-2017, 03:30 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Nissan unveils ‘world’s first’ ethanol-powered electric car
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Old 07-26-2017, 03:51 PM
 
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Gas is expensive in the UK and as a result, there are a lot of smelly diesel cars on the road.
Gas and diesel is expensive in the UK and the rest of Europe mostly because of very high taxes. Diesel has lower taxes because it emits less CO2, they are choking on diesel emissions in pursuit of reducing CO2 emissions.
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