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Old 07-27-2017, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Russia's interest are polarly opposite to the policies, and stance of the U.S. under Trump. Russia would have been much better off with Hillary.


Energy policy - Trump is for maximizing our fossil fuel resources which are incredibly huge. He wants us to be energy independent, and that can be a reality very quickly with our natural gas, oil, and coal resources. We are also now exporting energy, and can take European, and maybe even Asian markets away from Russia. Trump is promoting this, and the Russians hate it because it is their prime source of Revenue.


National Defense - Trump is building the military back up. The Russians hate that too because it makes the weaker on the world stage.


Immigration - The Russians would like to see us weakened by illegal aliens pouring into our country, and illegally sucking up its resources, and government benefits. They also vote Democrat who, like Hillary, would push for open borders, and a weaker military, and of course promote the destructive welfare state.


There are many more, but I am tired of typing.
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:23 AM
 
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Let me count the ways for you.

1. Abandonment of global leadership.
2. End of US and Western Sanctions.
3. Free reign to meddle in western elections.
4. A compromised President fearful to confront Russian aggression.
5. A debilitated USA due to increased and oftentimes specious news of election fraud.
6. A weaken presidency.
7. A USA that is a laughingstock worldwide that undermines US credibility.
8. A USA consistently in political turmoil.


These are just for starters. A weak and ineffective USA means a stronger Russia, all at our expense.



THIS,well said!
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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Russia's interest are polarly opposite to the policies, and stance of the U.S. under Trump. Russia would have been much better off with Hillary.


Energy policy - Trump is for maximizing our fossil fuel resources which are incredibly huge. He wants us to be energy independent, and that can be a reality very quickly with our natural gas, oil, and coal resources. We are also now exporting energy, and can take European, and maybe even Asian markets away from Russia. Trump is promoting this, and the Russians hate it because it is their prime source of Revenue.


National Defense - Trump is building the military back up. The Russians hate that too because it makes the weaker on the world stage.


Immigration - The Russians would like to see us weakened by illegal aliens pouring into our country, and illegally sucking up its resources, and government benefits. They also vote Democrat who, like Hillary, would push for open borders, and a weaker military, and of course promote the destructive welfare state.


There are many more, but I am tired of typing.
Why does Russia need military when they can hack our computers, to the delight of the American right?
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Let me count the ways for you.

1. Abandonment of global leadership.
2. End of US and Western Sanctions.
3. Free reign to meddle in western elections.
4. A compromised President fearful to confront Russian aggression.
5. A debilitated USA due to increased and oftentimes specious news of election fraud.
6. A weaken presidency.
7. A USA that is a laughingstock worldwide that undermines US credibility.
8. A USA consistently in political turmoil.


These are just for starters. A weak and ineffective USA means a stronger Russia, all at our expense.
That is a good start. Of course the list goes on, since Putin has a long wish list in order to put himself and Russia on path to becoming a global leader and even a superpower again. It is a heck of a lot easier having the president of the US helping in every step of the way.

Putin was fist-pumping on day-1 when Trump discredited all US intelligence agencies as unreliable.

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Old 07-27-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Why does Russia need military when they can hack our computers, to the delight of the American right?

What? There are no facts nor evidence of any meaningful, nor successful Russian hacking. Go back to watching CNN.
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:29 AM
 
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In regards to commodity products, what happens when supply increases? Well, assuming demand doesn't increase as much as or greater than supply, it typically means a drop in price.

Russia's largest export is natural gas. When the global supply of oil increases, Russia makes less money on its largest export.

Trump is a "drill baby drill" guy who is relaxing regulations on drilling for such things as natural gas which would actually have a negative impact on Russia and the oligarchs.

So if Trump is Putin's puppet, wouldn't Trump be trying to reduce drilling in order to help the Russian economy?
Russia benefits when the USA is weak, and it is in the best interest of Russia to install the weakest man as president. A weak president in the USA leads to boldness in rogue groups and countries, such as North Korea. Other countries will fill the gap when there is a weak president in the USA, as we have seen with China, Canada, and Western Europe. The overall end result of a weak USA is global instability.

I've never viewed the USA as an oil giant. The middle east toys with the price of oil by flooding the market and reducing the price per barrel. Russia's support of a weak USA president is unrelated to oil.
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What? There are no facts nor evidence of any meaningful, nor successful Russian hacking. Go back to watching CNN.

Trumplings...

They know so much more than the US and allied intel agencies that all constantly monitor Russian communications.

Very impressive!

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Old 07-27-2017, 07:38 AM
 
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Let me count the ways for you.

1. Abandonment of global leadership.
2. End of US and Western Sanctions.
3. Free reign to meddle in western elections.
4. A compromised President fearful to confront Russian aggression.
5. A debilitated USA due to increased and oftentimes specious news of election fraud.
6. A weaken presidency.
7. A USA that is a laughingstock worldwide that undermines US credibility.
8. A USA consistently in political turmoil.


These are just for starters. A weak and ineffective USA means a stronger Russia, all at our expense.
Well said.

A president that doesn't believe his own intelligence agency.
A president that acts like Russia and Putin are his friend.

This country is at its weakest point and at its most divided and this president has done nothing to unify it.
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Old 07-27-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TreeBeard View Post
Let me count the ways for you.

1. Abandonment of global leadership.
2. End of US and Western Sanctions.
3. Free reign to meddle in western elections.
4. A compromised President fearful to confront Russian aggression.
5. A debilitated USA due to increased and oftentimes specious news of election fraud.
6. A weaken presidency.
7. A USA that is a laughingstock worldwide that undermines US credibility.
8. A USA consistently in political turmoil.


These are just for starters. A weak and ineffective USA means a stronger Russia, all at our expense.
1. What exactly do you mean by global leadership? Does that mean th rest of the world should do as we say?

2. Why should we sanction Russia? If it's because of their spying and interference in our society, should t we be sanctioned for doing the same?

3. What exact things did the Russian government do to meddle in our elections, and how does it matter when we are bombing countries in order to interfere with their governments? Isn't that highly hypocritical?

4. Do you really want to confront Russia over things like the Ukraine? You want us threatening military action in every country that is messing with another country? You sure alsound like a war hawk on steroids.

5. The news is about anonymous sources and speculation, primarily by the left. If suspicion of possible election problems, suspicion itself, is an issue causing problems, that is due to the media.

6. What is weak about the presidency other than the left still upset that they lost an election they thought they had wrapped up? One second the left says he's weak and the next that he is a bully dictator.

7. We aren't a laughing stock, that is just how the left wants to say because they lost.

8. We have been in "political termoil" for decades.

It really comes down to a whole bunch of butthurt from the left.

It's essentially a temper tantrum because you didn't get what you want and assumed you'd get.

If Trump was a true puppet of Russia, drilling would be cut to help the Russian economy. That is LOGIC not goofy emotion.
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Old 07-27-2017, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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easy question $$$$ and world dominance
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