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Nobody is, so how could he be? He's not a God, he's a human being. I'm getting pretty tired of people holding him and everyone else to such impossible standards. We are all human, and far from perfect. There is nobody you could name who fits that description, especially in politics or business.
Nobody is, so how could he be? He's not a God, he's a human being. I'm getting pretty tired of people holding him and everyone else to such impossible standards. We are all human, and far from perfect. There is nobody you could name who fits that description, especially in politics or business.
You all held Hillary and Obama to impossible standards. Obama got attacked for wearing a tan suit, but Trump can destroy the country and it's no big deal.
Do you believe Donald Trump is a man of loyalty, integrity and honesty?
I don't know him personally so it's all conjecture on my part.
Yes he's loyal. He cherry picks his loyalty IMO, and is only loyal to those loyal to him.
Based on following him over the years as a CPA looking at a businessman, low integrity level.
Is anyone honest? He may wear it on his sleeve, but not exactly sure how much honesty is on that sleeve.
Trump demands loyalty but gives none back, just ask his first 2 wives.
Trump has no integrity, just ask those companies that he shafted and are now suing him.
Trump is a pathological liar. There are just too many examples out there to prove this.
I didn't vote for Trump. But seriously how many votes do you think Russia flipped in Trump's favor?
You didn't ask me, but I'd say not much.
The perpetrators had a few different methods of interference, such as selectively releasing emails from one campaign (but no other) for the propaganda value. They also hacked into multiple state voter databases.
The point actually is that any of these actions are a crime, and if you or I did them it would be jail time. Taken together they are a multiple list of crimes.
There was potential to do harm there, but nothing definitive. The election results are not challenged in these investigations and are not the object of study. It is not the affects of these illegal efforts, but the actions and intent that is of concern.
If the Russians did this on their own, it is still a crime which needs investigating (it doesn't actually matter if it was the Russian government or private Russian individuals in that respect, it is still a series of crimes committed in the USA). If they did this with either the encouragement or cooperation of US citizens, the US citizens would be culpable as accessories. It is starting to look as though there really was something going on between some individuals connected to the campaign and some parties in Russia.
If there was a quid pro quo between the Trump campaign and the Russians, that would be damning. It is starting to look like reducing the sanctions against Russia may have been part of the agreement.
Mr Trump has always been sensitive about how his administration was perceived. Crowd sizes are a great example of this concern, as are the unsubstantiated claims of massive voter fraud. There has been a great deal of anxiety in the white house about whether the administration was perceived as legitimate, perhaps excessively.
Historically, I think this will be remembered for all time as a dark chapter in our republic's history.
The point actually is that any of these actions are a crime, and if you or I did them it would be jail time. Taken together they are a multiple list of crimes.
There was potential to do harm there, but nothing definitive. The election results are not challenged in these investigations and are not the object of study. It is not the affects of these illegal efforts, but the actions and intent that is of concern.
If the Russians did this on their own, it is still a crime which needs investigating (it doesn't actually matter if it was the Russian government or private Russian individuals in that respect, it is still a series of crimes committed in the USA). If they did this with either the encouragement or cooperation of US citizens, the US citizens would be culpable as accessories. It is starting to look as though there really was something going on between some individuals connected to the campaign and some parties in Russia.
One relevant question is whether or not there would have been any of these investigations of crimes if Hillary had been elected. Somehow I doubt it. The fact that this was barely an issue during the campaign speaks volumes.
Even more telling is the fact that the rules on disclosure of intelligence were drastically loosened during the lame duck period.
This is purely an effort to destabilize the Trump Administration from the get-go since Trump promised to "drain the swamp" and probably meant it.
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Historically, I think this will be remembered for all time as a dark chapter in our republic's history.
Yes, but not in the way you meant. This is a coup.
One relevant question is whether or not there would have been any of these investigations of crimes if Hillary had been elected. Somehow I doubt it. The fact that this was barely an issue during the campaign speaks volumes.
I disagree 100%
The FBI was investigating well before anyone knew that Mr Trump was going to be elected. The case was not broadcast to the world because that is how law enforcement works with ongoing investigations, they are not going to tip off the perpetrators that they are being monitored.
If there was a different outcome to the election (there were four other major candidates) we have to realize that the criminal investigation would have gone forward, and I am sure you would then be claiming here that the white house was persecuting it's political opponents, because that is what Breitbart would have been telling you.
In reality, as Mr Trump has recently discovered, a criminal investigation can not be started nor stopped by any president. It will go forward.
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