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Old 07-28-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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after the 2016 election you are a fool if you give blind faith in polls.
You asked for the "method of the poll" so I assumed you understood polling methods.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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Once more..John McCain takes the high, hard road:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-senate-floor/

McCain represents what real Republicanism is about, and has always been presidential through and through.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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after the 2016 election you are a fool if you give blind faith in polls.
The national polls proved to be quite accurate. The final polls showed Hillary up by 2 or 3 points. She "won" the popular vote by 2 points. This was within the margin of error.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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You asked for the "method of the poll" so I assumed you understood polling methods.
it doesn't matter the methods of a poll.....you take polls with a grain of salt.

Elections are the real poll of the mood of the country not a phone call to 1,000 people.


Obamacare was rejected after it was implemented in 2014 and 2016 elections.....what more do you need?
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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it doesn't matter the methods of a poll.....you take polls with a grain of salt.

Elections are the real poll of the mood of the country not a phone call to 1,000 people.


Obamacare was rejected after it was implemented in 2014 and 2016 elections.....what more do you need?
Why did you ask for the methods of the poll if you don't understand the significance?
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:40 AM
 
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The national polls proved to be quite accurate. The final polls showed Hillary up by 2 or 3 points. She "won" the popular vote by 2 points. This was within the margin of error.
the same polls that had her wining Florida, North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and giving her over 325 electoral votes (She was 100 short)? O.K.


Hillary won the popular vote because of California....There weren't much polling in California.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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How dare John McCain insist on following normal committee procedure, hold public hearings and negotiate with the other party! Trump and his supporters can't tolerate a Republican who shows some integrity and statesmanship.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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Why did you ask for the methods of the poll if you don't understand the significance?

because you dont know.......out of 1,056 calls how many were done in red states compare to blue states.....that does matter in the results of a poll......that's why you take with a grain of salt a poll you should know that.

If Obamacare was popular Democrats would have kept majority in the house and senate and kept the W.H.....but they didn't.....explain why? was it for something else? what is more important than having your premiums go up over 65% to the voters?


explain that to me with common sense not just some poll to back up your argument.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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the same polls that had her wining Florida, North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and giving her over 325 electoral votes (She was 100 short)? O.K.
Hillary won the popular vote because of California....There weren't much polling in California.
You're confusing state-level polling (which, as you correctly note, has issues with small sample size and infrequent updating) with national-level polling. At the national level the polls were quite accurate.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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You're confusing state-level polling (which, as you correctly note, has issues with small sample size and infrequent updating) with national-level polling. At the national level the polls were quite accurate.

that's how we elect a president at the state level not national popular vote.......and once again, Trump led in the popular vote until California came in.

what does that has to do that Obamacare is unpopular in the majority of the states?.....since Obamacare was implemented and the lies exposed the Democrats lost control of the house, senate and WH......explain that.
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