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Football players and university professors can be fired for their views. 142 43.03%
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Old 09-26-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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I got this in an email from a very good friend and I wasn't sure if it belonged in a political forum, but I'll try and I'll leave it up to City Data moderators to determine what to do with it. It's a reminder to all those over-paid professional athletes, who act like spoiled brats by refusing to stand up for the National Anthem. Let's remind them of those who fought, and many of whom made the ultimate sacrifice to defend the freedoms they tend to take for granted.

Take a little trip to Valley Forge in January. If you don't know where that is, just Google it from the sidelines. Hold a musket ball in your fingers and imagine it piercing your flesh and breaking a bone or two. There won't be a doctor or trainer to assist you until after the battle, so just wait your turn. Take your cleats and socks off to get a real experience. Then take a knee.

Then take one at the beach in Normandy where man after American man stormed the beach, even as the one in front of him was shot to pieces and the very sea stained with American blood. The only blockers most had were the dead bodies in front of them . . . riddled with bullets from enemy fire.

Take a knee in the sweat soaked jungles of Vietnam. from Khe San to Saigon . . . anywhere will do. REAL Americans died in all those jungles. There was no playbook that told them what was next, but they knew what flag they represented. When they came home, they were protested, as well as spit on for reasons only cowards know.

Take another knee in the blood drenched sands of Fallujah in 110 degree heat. Wear your Kevlar helmet and battle dress. Your number won't be printed on it unless your number is up! You'll need to stay hydrated but there won't be anyone to squirt Gatorade into your mouth. You're on your own.

There's a lot of places to take a knee. Real Americans have given their lives all over the world. When you use the banner under which they fought as a source for your displeasure, you dishonor the memories of those who bled for the very freedoms you have. That's what the red stripes mean. It represents the blood of those who spilled a sea of it defending your liberty.

While you are on your knee, pray for those that came before you, not on a manicured lawn striped and printed with numbers to announce every inch of ground taken . . . but on nameless hills and bloodied beaches and sweltering forests and bitter cold mountains . . . every inch marked by an American life lost serving that flag you protest.

No cheerleaders, no announcers, no coaches, no fans . . . just American men and women delivering the real fight against those who chose to harm us . . . blazing a path so you would have the right to "take a knee."

You have no inkling what it took to get you where you are; but your "protest" is duly noted. Not only is it disgraceful to a nation of real heroes, it serves the purpose of pointing to your ingratitude for those who chose to defend you under that banner that will still wave long after your jersey is issued to another.

If you really feel the need to take a knee . . . come with me to church on Sunday and we will both kneel before Almighty God. We'll thank Him for preserving this country for as long as He has. We will beg forgiveness for our ingratitude for all He has provided us. We will appeal to Him for understanding and wisdom. We will pray for liberty and justice for all . . . because He is the one who provides those things.

And there will be no protest. There will only be gratitude for His provision and a plea for His continued grace and mercy on the land of the free and the home of the brave. It goes like this . . .

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Unless you pay the athletes directly you aren't the one who decides whom is overpaid. The owners decide and to downplay the fact that these folks just "play a game" greatly ignores the skills they have, if it was easy and so lucrative anyone could do it. Those who also say they just "play a game" also overlook the incredible about of work these folks have to do as it's certainly not a just show up Sunday for 16 weeks and before anyone says "I'd go play a game for a hell of a lot less" we'll go do it, if you can't get hired then realize you aren't skilled enough or worth it. I'd also like to know what makes this group "spoiled" if you'd care to tell me

 
Old 09-26-2017, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Do's and Don'ts with our Flag:


Don’t dip the U.S. Flag for any person, flag, or vessel.
Don’t let the flag touch the ground.
Don’t fly flag upside down unless there is an emergency.
Don’t carry the flag flat, or carry things in it.
Don’t use the flag as clothing.
Don’t store the flag where it can get dirty.
Don’t use it as a cover.
Don’t fasten it or tie it back. Always allow it to fall free.
Don’t draw on, or otherwise mark the flag.
Don’t use the flag for decoration. Use bunting with the blue on top, then white, then red.





Flag Etiquette Do's and Don'ts | Military.com
all hold the same legal significance as Emily Post's rules for which fork to start with
 
Old 09-26-2017, 05:57 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Let's see...Hurricanes destroying buildings and territories of the US, leaving many without power, food
or shelter...being fatal to some Americans...
Earthquakes destroying buildings and huge parts of cities, and bringing on Tsunami's...A Maniac in Korea
armed with Nuclear Weapons who keeps threatening us with Nuclear Destruction...War...children starving....Disease...flooding...Wildfires....

Football players kneeling...way down on the list of the things that matter the most.

EXCEPT TO THE NUT-JOB RACIST TRUMP..... WHO TWEETED '24 TIMES' ABOUT IT THIS PAST WEEKEND!
 
Old 09-26-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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all hold the same legal significance as Emily Post's rules for which fork to start with
Are we going with legal basis or simply disrespect? On a legal basis these protest aren't an issue at all
 
Old 09-26-2017, 06:08 PM
 
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Taking a knee is NOT disrespectful. We kneel when we pray. We kneel if we approach a king. Kneeling is saying "here I am, I have something to say, please listen".
The intent of kneeling is to show disrespect for the flag and for this country. They are not doing it to show respect.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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Oh because if they did it in another manner tons of white folks would certainly be open to discussions, it was pretty easy to integrate schools, lunch rooms, bathrooms, water fountains etc
With their wealth and name recognition they could easily call press conferences or arrange interviews on TV and on radio or get articles they write published in newspapers and magazines. They can even rent billboards or take out space ads to push their message if they thought that might help. They have many viable and appropriate ways of getting their message out.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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The intent of kneeling is to show disrespect for the flag and for this country. They are not doing it to show respect.
Kneeling is NOT disrespectful. To say that there are problems is NOT disrespectful.

You simply do not want to face up to these problems so you describe something in a way it is not. There is NOTHING disrespectful in kneeling.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 06:22 PM
 
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Will this hurt the NFL? I don't think so, the players are all millionaires and the owners are billionaires.

I just think the whole season is ruined, if this keeps up.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 06:22 PM
 
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With their wealth and name recognition they could easily call press conferences or arrange interviews on TV and on radio or get articles they write published in newspapers and magazines. They can even rent billboards or take out space ads to push their message if they thought that might help. They have many viable and appropriate ways of getting their message out.
And after all that the white folks would be open to it and change their minds? That's just a bunch of noise
 
Old 09-26-2017, 06:23 PM
 
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You should include a Christian baker who discriminates against someone else
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