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Old 10-14-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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NFL not seeking mandate for players to stand during anthem

https://ca.reuters.com/article/canad...BN1CI24Y-OCASP
I have been waiting for this decision.

NOW I will cancel my Direct TV NFL package!

 
Old 10-14-2017, 10:45 AM
 
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When the president comes out and says that people should be fired over their protest, that line was crossed.
So, now the president isn't allowed to voice his opinion!
 
Old 10-14-2017, 10:55 AM
 
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So, now the president isn't allowed to voice his opinion!
Concerning what he said, no.
 
Old 10-14-2017, 11:02 AM
 
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So, now the president isn't allowed to voice his opinion!
Surely that's not the case here. He's had the bully pulpit from day 1:

At Trump's bully pulpit, it's 'us' vs. 'them,' with race often used as a device to polarize

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For much of his time as president, Donald Trump has been the bully at the bully pulpit, castigating targets foreign and domestic. Much of Trump’s bluster attempts to divide people into us-against-them, and it often has a single polarizing agent: race.

On Friday night, as he has many times before, Trump inflamed an almost exclusively white Southern audience against opponents who he said were trying to steal their heritage and attack their values. In that Alabama speech and on Saturday, he criticized African American athletes who had exercised free speech by declining to stand during the national anthem.

His racially oriented statements seem to reflect Trump’s embrace of the world as it was decades ago when power was largely held by men like him. ...
At Trump's bully pulpit, it's 'us' vs. 'them,' with race often used as a device to polarize - LA Times
 
Old 10-14-2017, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa?
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Your comment about NFL players being replaceable is noted. However replacing them with those that were once NFL rejects would drive the quality way down. Down so far fans would drop like flies, much more so then what we are seeing now.
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It might change which team is more dominant than the other, but it won't chase away fans. If it did, no one would ever attend a Brown's game. I say they should get rid of anyone who is disgracing the other players who are proud of the country they live in.
 
Old 10-14-2017, 12:26 PM
 
Location: The 719
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I'm glad the owners are not requiring the players to stand. That's as it should be. It would be wrong to even think of requiring them to expect this to happen.

What would be nice would be for the players to want to stand.

This all started with Kaepernick taking a knee or sitting or whatever he does.

The biggest problem here is those protesters have forgotten what they are even protesting.

When you have to explain why you're protesting when it's been going on this long, you've done something wrong.

They are protesting because of their hatred of Trump and their hatred of those of us who voted for him.

Kaepernick, their leader, is an idiot. He quotes Winston Churchill and shouts fascism while wearing a Fidel Castro shirt.

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is an idiot
 
Old 10-14-2017, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Phila Pa
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It might change which team is more dominant than the other, but it won't chase away fans. If it did, no one would ever attend a Brown's game. I say they should get rid of anyone who is disgracing the other players who are proud of the country they live in.
Currently the worst team in the NFL would be far better then the best replacement player team that could ever be assembled.
 
Old 10-14-2017, 01:29 PM
 
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I'm glad the owners are not requiring the players to stand. That's as it should be. It would be wrong to even think of requiring them to expect this to happen.

What would be nice would be for the players to want to stand.

This all started with Kaepernick taking a knee or sitting or whatever he does.

The biggest problem here is those protesters have forgotten what they are even protesting.

When you have to explain why you're protesting when it's been going on this long, you've done something wrong.

They are protesting because of their hatred of Trump and their hatred of those of us who voted for him.

Kaepernick, their leader, is an idiot. He quotes Winston Churchill and shouts fascism while wearing a Fidel Castro shirt.
And if any Houston players take a knee without punishment, I'm done with the NFL.

I have no problem going college only or even without.
 
Old 10-14-2017, 02:44 PM
 
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I'm glad the owners are not requiring the players to stand. That's as it should be. It would be wrong to even think of requiring them to expect this to happen.

What would be nice would be for the players to want to stand.

This all started with Kaepernick taking a knee or sitting or whatever he does.

The biggest problem here is those protesters have forgotten what they are even protesting.

When you have to explain why you're protesting when it's been going on this long, you've done something wrong.

They are protesting because of their hatred of Trump and their hatred of those of us who voted for him.

Kaepernick, their leader, is an idiot. He quotes Winston Churchill and shouts fascism while wearing a Fidel Castro shirt.
Actually the reason they have to keep explaining why they are protesting is because people that can’t relate have been trying to discredit the cause any chance they get. If people tried to hear them it wouldn’t have to go this long.
 
Old 10-14-2017, 05:41 PM
 
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I would like to see, at least on some teams, the team owner or coach go ahead and tell them that they are permitted to kneel during the anthem, but then just bench anyone who does it for the whole game, without telling them beforehand. Then they would surely get the message. And that would be the end of it, except for players that don't want to play, but still get paid. They won't be around long after that!
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