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View Poll Results: Should football players and university professors be easy to fire for their views?
Football players and university professors can be fired for their views. 142 43.03%
Neither can be fired for their views 188 56.97%
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Originally Posted by Feltdesigner View Post
college is where everyone BUT the players get paid..lol
Yeah, while making the schools millions of dollars. I do enjoy college football more than the NFL these days.


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unless it's COke, Pepsi or Budwesier the NFL doesn't care.
Not quite true. See post #23.

 
Old 09-29-2017, 12:31 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Default Somehow Someway, Kaepernick has Managed to get Society to Equate Honoring the Flag with Racism

It's completely unbelievable, if someone had told you this was possible even a decade ago no one would have believed you. This professional football player who by all accounts is an entitled pampered clueless fool who never worked a day in his life, one day decided that the United States was responsible for all that is wrong in society.

Fast forward to today, if you stand for the anthem you are a far right racist bigot.

Say what? Seriously. This is the current state of affairs.

Just as a matter of background on Kaepernick, his father was black and left him as a child. He was given up for adoption by his mother to a white couple in the suburbs. This guy has no idea what real struggle is. All he knows are the media headlines and social media campaigns. No doubt his adopted parents fostered their deep sentiments of "white guilt".

When the only parents you know don't respect themselves, is it any wonder you grow up not respecting anything? Food for thought.


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Old 09-29-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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It's completely unbelievable, if someone had told you this was possible even a decade ago no one would have believed you. This professional football player who by all accounts is an entitled pampered clueless fool who never worked a day in his life, one day decided that the United States was responsible for all that is wrong in society.

Fast forward to today, if you stand for the anthem you are a far right racist bigot.

Say what? Seriously. This is the current state of affairs.

Just as a matter of background on Kaepernick, his father was black and left him as a child. He was given up for adoption by his mother to a white couple in the suburbs. This guy has no idea what real struggle is. All he knows are the media headlines and social media campaigns. No doubt his adopted parents fostered their deep sentiments of "white guilt".

When the only parents you know don't respect themselves, is it any wonder you grow up not respecting anything? Food for thought.
Who considers people racists for standing? I don't. I know others don't. Who are these people you speak of?
 
Old 09-29-2017, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Somehow, someway, Trump has managed to get taking a knee against institutional racism equated with hating America.
 
Old 09-29-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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Noble gesture but unfortunately won't do anything to hurt the bottom line in the midst of general public apathy.
 
Old 09-29-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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You're making baseless sensationalized claims.

A black kid, orphaned and raised by different race parents, in a likely different social construct then where he came from, has no idea what a struggle is? FFS, maybe you need to look in the mirror and reflect for a minute why YOU are worked up over this.
 
Old 09-29-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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We don't need government to run our daily lives. No ones forcing anyone to get a loan
true enough, but so many of those people getting those payday loans dont have the necessary understanding that they are paying something like an 860% apr on that loan they take out. the only difference going to a payday loan company, and going to the corner loan shark is that when thepayday loan company comes to collect on a delinquent account, they dont break your legs.

an i think payday loan companies would be more acceptable if they were forced to live with a nominally high interest rate, like say no more than 50%. that way the people that get those payday loans would have at least a chance of paying off those loans. but this borrow 1000 dollars and pay back 18,000 dollars is rubbish.

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What a silly post.

Who do you think dictates how much these athletes get paid, or eventually get paid (watching college football)?

So, who's the dummy, then?




I know my post required a deeper level of thinking, so let me rephrase it for you. There's a difference between "not watching" and wanting to force your opinions on others.

So when people, including Captain Bonespurs, say players should be "fired", that's not wanting to prohibit their constitutional right? Or when people say they should be deported? The NFL currently does not "fire" players for these protests.

Because of that, there are those who are boycotting until the NFL changes its stance on these types of protests, which would effectively take the right away from the players. If a player kneels, he loses his job. Not because the NFL already had this rule established, but because of the pressure of boycotting fans who are "offended". Does that sound familiar to you?



I don't have a problem with their counter protest, or else I would be advocating for the counter protesters to lose their job, come under attack, etc. I couldn't clear less if people don't want to watch football. I don't get easily offended like others obviously do. It's their right.

I'm just calling it out as I see it. The blatant hypocrisy. None of which you addressed. Shocking.

I know deflection is all you usual suspects have, but it doesn't work. Time for a new game plan.
trump was suggesting that the OWNERS fire the players. that isnt quashing free speech, that is protecting the teams public reputation(perhaps not the word i am looking for, but close enough).

the players can protest in any manner they choose, but they ARE NOT protected from the consequences of their protest. and note tht trump did not say fire them, he asked wouldnt it be nice IF those team owners said get them off the field your fired. trump also never said the team owners have to fire them, but rather said the team owners SHOULD fire them.

your stance is another one of those "rights for me but no rights for thee" attitudes. if a player does something i disagree with, then according to you, i still have to watch that player play the game. is that fair? in essence if i turn off the game when a player does something i disagree with, do i not have that right to protest as well? or have i lost my rights to protest when the player utilizes their right to protest?

does that also mean that if i protested first, the player loses their right to protest?
 
Old 09-29-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: New York City
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By the way, this is how Kaepernick's own birth mother views his disrespect:

https://twitter.com/Heidirn1/status/769680524994449408

His own mother said it better than anyone else
 
Old 09-29-2017, 12:39 PM
 
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NFL isn't going anywhere. Stop dreaming.
 
Old 09-29-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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NFL isn't going anywhere. Stop dreaming.

Nobody said that....maybe you can show us in this thread?
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